Healer and Life Guide, Nicole Bills
In this illuminating episode we sit down with healer, life guide & intuitive, Nicole Bills, for a heartfelt exploration of spiritual awakening, ancestral healing & stepping into alignment with your true self.
Nicole shares her spiritual journey—one that began in childhood with natural healing abilities but was later suppressed due to societal conditioning. From early experiences of channeling divine energy as a child to navigating a “Great Remembering” later in life, she opens up about the challenges, fears & breakthroughs that shaped her path. Nicole’s wisdom is both practical & mystical, offering insights for anyone navigating their own awakening.
Highlights:
🐶 How did a four-year-old Nicole miraculously heal her blind puppy?
🌿 How generations of wisdom shaped her path in energy medicine and witchcraft.
✨ The role of energy medicine in harmonizing the body, mind, and spirit.
🔮 What is the “Great Remembering,” and how do we reconnect with our forgotten spiritual abilities?
🔥 Overcoming fear and reclaiming your spiritual identity after suppression.
🌍 What is ancestral healing & why is it essential in today’s world?
🧙♀️ Reclaiming the term “witchcraft”— how does it connect to healing, intuition, and working with nature’s magic?
💫 Why so many people struggle to integrate spiritual energy and how simple techniques can help.
💙 Nicole created a FREE webinar, Reclaiming Your Energy to help you more deeply ground & support spiritual energies: www.nicolebills.com/wayfinder
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NICOLE BILLS is a guide for those who feel stuck in cycles of stress, doubt & energetic heaviness. Using a powerful mix of intuitive coaching, energy healing & mindfulness, she helps clients untangle what’s weighing them down to step into deep clarity, alignment &self-trust. With Nicole, it’s not just about healing—it’s about reclaiming your power, reconnecting with your inner wisdom & creating real transformation in your life. https://www.nicolebills.com/
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. She helps Lightworkers step into their Soul Destiny through her spiritual mentorship program, Unlock Your Soul Destiny. 💖 Her book “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self” is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
NICOLE PARISH is a a gifted International Psychic and Medium. She offers both in-person & zoom readings, connecting clients with their spirit guides, helpers, and departed loved ones, as well as entity & attachment releasing and home clearings. Check out her Intuitive Development, group readings & other events. https://www.nicoleparish.com/
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TRANSCRIPT
Tianna: [00:00:00] This is such a fun episode for me. Because I've got two Nicoles with me, and I love both of them. And so we've got Nicole Parish back to co host. And then we have my dear friend Nicole Bills. And it's funny because when I'm with one Nicole, The other Nicole, often just becomes other Nicole.
I did start calling Nicole Parish psychic Nicole, but , a lot of times when I'm with one Nicole, the other one becomes other Nicole. But I really love and dearly appreciate both of these women. Nicole Bills is our guest today. And gosh, I don't know how long have we known each other, Nicole?
Like. 15 years or something?
Nicole Bills: I didn't know I was going to have a pop quiz on this. It's been at least 15 years. If not a little bit more. Yeah.
Tianna: Yeah, and it's been so interesting over the years, how our relationship has developed, our friendship has developed, and getting to know each other more and how, of course, we've both grown and evolved over that [00:01:00] time.
When I first met Nicole, I didn't. know of all, , her spiritual gifts and that side of her. We met through my boyfriend at the time and her husband and some other people that were all connected. I didn't meet her like in a, spiritual event or something like that.
And I can remember like one of the. Early times, I don't know, there was some event at your house there was a bunch of people and it was in the evening and , you weren't feeling well or something like this and then I offered you some Reiki and a lot of people in that kind of chaotic environment wouldn't necessarily feel the energy but I remember and so Nicole said yes and I gave her some Reiki and she was like, wow, oh, that's so helpful and I was like, oh, wow.
She's really sensitive. I can't believe, with all of this going on at her house that she can feel this and it was kind of the first inkling of realizing like, Oh, she's very sensitive and then of course, over the years, as we've talked more, I've gotten to hear a lot of your experiences, your stories from like your childhood.
So I thought maybe we could [00:02:00] start at your childhood. Maybe if you could share, a experience, , Where you started to be aware , of your spiritual connection.
Nicole Bills: Yeah, it's funny. Cause I was actually thinking about this today. The earliest one that I can recall, I've been told earlier stories, but I just don't really draw those memories up quickly for me, the one that really comes easily to me, I think I was about four years old.
And I had a puppy that was, I don't know if you say diagnosed blind or whatever, but the vet confirmed that the puppy was going to be blind. , and it just broke my heart because I guess I just wanted him to see what I could see. And go on our little adventures together. We lived like next to a natural park and , so I ended up taking the puppy into the closet and laying hands on it.
And I remember calling in my spirit team and asking for this like divine energy to come down and heal this puppy., and the dog was named Blick Block because it kept running into everything. But my parents couldn't find me for a while, right? It was long enough for them to go missing. This was back at the time when It's not natural to see your kids [00:03:00] very frequently, right?
It's like you're often allowed to your own devices for long periods of times. But so they noticed I was missing. They went looking for me everywhere and they found me in the closet just communicating. and then the dog, I guess that evening was running around and wasn't running into things. And it was such a weird thing for my parents that they actually took them back to the vet.
And the vet thought that we had switched, like done a bait and switch with dogs because the dog could now see. So yeah. So that's my earliest, earliest memory. Wow.
Nicole Parish: I'm speechless. How old were you, did you say? How old were you? Four. Four. Four years old. So when you were in that experience, if you could go back into that memory, what do you think was happening?
I love the technical aspect of it. Was energy coming through you? Were you calling on angels? Was energy coming through your hand? Intentions?
Nicole Bills: I do remember laying hands. Like I do remember that part. I felt very called to put my hands on the dog's eyes. And I remember the puppy which was Just a roly poly little thing.
It was very calm. [00:04:00] So I remember that I remember being snuggled up in blankets and I do recall like, it wasn't like a name for who I was talking to, it just felt like a team that I had, like a team of people is how my adult mind describes it., but yeah, does that help?
Nicole Parish: Yeah, it does. And I'm also curious if, again, you're four years old, this is a few decades ago, and just a few, and just , if as a four year old wondering, what do I do next or you intuitively knew what to do?
Nicole Bills: Yeah, that's the really interesting thing. I did. I felt like it was very much nurtured in my childhood. And it's weird. Like I've talked to Tianna about this before, There was this period of my life 17 and younger from 0 to 17 where it felt like I was being very nurtured in a spiritual realm and taught to question.
I was taught witchcraft. I was taught healing herbs I was taught tarot. I was taught all this stuff and then there was a period of my life where that was [00:05:00] different and we can get into that later, but It just felt very natural to me. Everybody did it I've since found out that there have been healers in my family, whether through traditional medicine or through, ancestral healing and energy healing or herbal healing witchcraft.
for at least 200 years, I've gone back in discussions with ancestors and found it to be older than that, 200 years worth of healers. So for me, it was a very natural thing, right at that time. It wasn't always that way, but at that time it was very easy, very natural, very nurtured in that state.
Tianna: Since you use that word witchcraft a couple of times, and I know some people that's a trigger word and we've talked about this before and I think that you have a really great way of, , describing these things that makes people feel more at ease or might kind of shift from their misconceptions.
So how would you describe what witchcraft is to you?
Nicole Bills: Yeah, that's such a good question. And I think this feels like a reclaiming [00:06:00] period for me to publicly talk about witchcraft because it's been such a secluded part, right? but for me, that means if we go back to like the etymology of what I was taught, it meant wise woman, right?
Who knew about herbs, who knew how to help people, maybe clairs activated and could like. guide people through life, right? So however that is , through education or through healing or whatever, but it was this wise woman that knew that. And so that's what witchcraft really means to me. It's an understanding of the earth and her magic, and how plants and herbs can medicinally help people and then how to use energy and tap into whatever it is that you need to tap into for yourself.
For your own inner wisdom
Nicole Parish: and in that you mentioned one of the Claire's activated. Can you explain what a Claire is?
Nicole Bills: Oh my gosh, to me that's just Those are the technical terms for intuition and the ways in which intuition comes to you.
Right? So, I don't know if I could name all [00:07:00] six to you. I think there's six, right? Seven. Okay. So, the one that feels the most natural to me, I feel like everyone has all of these methods, but they're not all awake and everyone yet, or they're not on time. The easiest or natural one to pull from, but I think that everybody can learn to use them.
Okay. So, last night a community event where two tarot readers are there and we got to talking a little bit beforehand and she said that she was a clairvoyant tarot reader and we were talking about the clairs and all that stuff and she said that that was the one that felt the most natural to her and she asked which one felt the most natural to me and I was like, clairsentience because sometimes messages just come in and I can feel it, But it took a long time to kind of slow them down.
They would just come in rapid fire. but I do hear stuff. I do feel things.
I hear things. I can smell things, sometimes I've had an answer should have come through that was a known smoker and I'll smell smoke when they come in.
Tianna: Since you mentioned ancestors, because I know you work with ancestors a lot. And I really don't work [00:08:00] with my ancestors. you know, I work with the angels and the ascended masters and kind of, you know, spirits that are in my soul group. but you always have lots of stories about your ancestors.
can you maybe just share more about that connection and why that's important part of your spiritual journey?
Nicole Bills: Sure. So if we skip, way ahead to that period that I call, I think you would call me talking about this, the Great Remembering, but, that's really where I started to study Celtic shamanism, and I started to understand, Like, an expression is a tree, where the roots are my ancestors, the trunk is the human expression right now, and the branches and the leaves are the divine, and everything is all connected and synergistic with each other, and so for me, root work was really important, and root work is ancestral work, and that's Three different types of ancestors.
my ancestors of blood, my ancestors of time, and the ancestors of the land that I'm working with. as a witch that's working with the land and her earth magic, it's really important that I [00:09:00] honor the ancestors who walked this earth before me.
Nicole Parish: I'm so in this conversation, I'm very, very intrigued. in my journey, ever since I remember first time I saw spirit, I was about three years old. I'm 54 over the decades, my guides and helpers who come in, they do almost all of my teaching and training to me.
And most people go to classes or people can go to Tianna's classes. People can go to your classes. Most people attend things and also are getting guidance from the universe, the cosmos, spirits, ancestors, that kind of thing. you said that you, what was it? Celtic something? What do you think
Nicole Bills: it's called?
Celtic shamanism.
Nicole Parish: Thank you. Did you get training for that from a human or from, from guides or both, or where do you get most of your information training knowledge?
Nicole Bills: Oh, what a good question. I would say it might be easiest if we go on a tangent and kind of like talk a little bit of my timeline, but a short answer for you would be.
There's a period of my life when [00:10:00] everything was just guides. there was a period of my life. It was both. And then later on, it became more of me pursuing teachers, like human teachers, in addition to all the connections that I do with spirit. So now I'm back to that combination now, right? So, but that specific wording, Celtic shamanism, that was an actual person in Scotland.
So, she's the one that kind of opened my eyes to changing the word from. Feeling like it was something appropriating to my actual roots and who I am,
Tianna: which is really, I've had, on the podcast before, another shamanic practitioner who's Caucasian and similarly, she felt it was important that she learned, , the European shamanism, that is her bloodline.
Even though, , a lot of times what's, been very popularized might be something more that's, coming from Central or South America. And there's nothing wrong with learning those things, but there is something [00:11:00] beautiful too about, learning something from our own DNA And the idea that, you know, me being a past life regression is the idea that.
Perhaps we chose to be born into this particular ancestry bloodline intentionally. And so honoring the roots in that way could be an important piece because maybe we came in to, I definitely know that. A lot of us or some of us came into at least partly heal and clear, some distortions in our own DNA line.
And that's part of the awakening that's happening on the planet right now is that in order to break some of these, patterns that have not been very healthy for the planet that keep getting, done over and over again. We had to choose to incarnate into certain bloodlines.
Which, , on one hand could be to heal it, but on another hand could be that just that you were born steeped in that tradition, or you have it in your DNA and you chose like, oh, this lifetime, it's important that I want it to be part of my DNA for my light work
Nicole Bills: yeah, [00:12:00] I really feel like that is one of the core important works of ancestral work is when you know your own bloodline.
And I don't like that necessarily that terminology, but like, when you know your DNA and that line that you come from, chances are, if you're this color, I'm pointing to myself or your listeners, that you have reparation work to do. Right? There's healing work to do, and you don't necessarily want to work with all of those ancestors, right?
Because some of that isn't healed, but coming into this timeline, this is the time to do that. This is the time to break those cycles, to re educate, and to change what's going forward. Whether you continue on your DNA, or whether just your presence is teaching other people. I think that's really, really important to do.
Nicole Parish: And just for clarity, for people who are listening to this podcast, what color are you referring to yourself as? The
Nicole Bills: Mayo
Nicole Parish: Club.
Nicole Bills: At 99. 8 percent [00:13:00] European. Which is maybe half a percent of North African, which is also white.
Nicole Parish: Thank you.
Nicole Bills: Yeah.
Tianna: Let's go back to the timeline, so then , our conversations will be more clear. , so you had that wonderful, beautiful early part of your life where you got to, , be really supported in your unique spiritual, Yeah. Authentic spiritual expression. , and then what happened between, whatever, 17 , and then the remembering part. Yeah.
Nicole Bills: okay. So I think there was a period at 17 that felt like fear and closing, right? I always view life in like plateaus and so like there's the climb and then you reach this plateau and then you climb again and you ascend and you keep going up.
and sometimes you go back down, right? But, there was this period that, I really refer to as the fear and closing period. And I got really involved with an indoctrination, where my gifts were demonized. and it made me very afraid of that. And so I tried really hard to fit in, right?
Because I wanted to belong. And this was the community that I was a part of. And I don't think my parents [00:14:00] were fully aware. Of those outside influences and where we were, I don't think they really paid attention to kind of like who was teaching us in certain classes or what have you, but yeah, it definitely, I started to shut down, right?
I started to shut all of that down and started to repress those memories, cut off communications with my guides. tried to just communicate with one deity that I thought was the right thing to do, which was Christianity at that time. and I remember my dad, he never really expressed disappointment verbally, but you could see disappointment on his face.
when I would talk about things with Like a fever. and how I thought it needed to be. And he would break out like the ancient, he always had this concordance book, which is, a reference book to ancient languages. And so we would pull, like the English wording from a text. And then he would open up all these ancient texts and try to.
Show me that, it doesn't really line up what you're saying, you know, like, if we go back to this ancient language, like, this is really what that translation meant, and, it was so frustrating, like, I loved spending time with him, but it would feel really frustrating, [00:15:00] because there was like a cognitive dissonance between what I thought I was believing, and what I was repressing, and then what he was trying to plant seeds with.
and then, skipping ahead a few years, but there came this period where our family moved to Alaska, my family, meaning my married family and children, and. Like, the proverbial nine months of winter, that really was probably my first dark night of the soul that I feel like I really experienced, and your first one, for me, in my experience, the first one's always kind of the hardest, and the longest feeling, but I remembered feeling so cut off.
That it felt really, really dark, and I just didn't understand what was going on, and I had this, visceral anger, that scared me, like, I didn't know I could feel that angry, and everything was just going into, like, the tarot card of tower and destruction, like, it was that, it was just, everything was falling around around me, relationships with the kids, relationships with my husband, friendships, everything went just dark, it was just really hard.
and then we came home for Texas for a few months to [00:16:00] save up for our next journey. And I really realized that the community that we built prior that felt really safe, I no longer fit in at all. And there was no hiding it, I was very much. A square peg trying to fit in a round hole and, then we went to Thailand and Thailand was like, if Alaska is the dark winter, Thailand was like the warm summer.
Right? And this warming happened and this reconnection to curiosity happened, redefining words like demon and what that meant. Right? So from the Christian perspective is something evil and bad and scary. And in the Thai culture, it was, a protector against other things, right? That you use that to protect you against the things that you don't want to come into your life.
It was just really interesting. So, that brought about a lot of curiosity and joy, reconnection. and then I feel like I had a season of little mini awakenings. and I don't remember tying if we knew each other before Thailand or after Thailand. you're somewhere in there, like we're in there.
You're coming into my life.
Tianna: Facebook will have a timeline other than that. I don't think I can remember exactly what [00:17:00] happened to it.
Nicole Bills: It's all intermeshed with each other, but I do remember that many awakening period. that, I think that's when I started taking Reiki classes from you. And I remember that first attunement, right?
so not you giving me Reiki, but the first attunement that you gave me after Reiki one, it was like, Little tiny memories started coming back of my past, right? That pre 17 and younger and all this stuff started coming up like, Oh my gosh, how do I know how to do this? You know? And it's like I started remembering how my childhood was and the family members that I was involved with.
And, that, that was a really neat period of time. It was very exciting for me, like all these tiny little awakenings. but then there was this need. To really deconstruct my entire career because if you'll remember one time we were having a conversation and you were like, it just feels like a disconnect and a lot of the things you're doing, Nicole, it's like, you're this, I know you as this socially, I know you this as intimately as a friend and like your business is just so different than you and it just feels [00:18:00] disconnected and that conversation was a catalyst to change it all.
I didn't know what it was going to look like. But I knew I needed to adjust that to really come into alignment with myself. And then somewhere in there again, in Meshment, I went to Costa Rica and there was, you know, how Providence is like you meet who you need to meet at that time. And I met this cocoa farmer who was also a past life reader.
And I wound up with her on her farm for hours on end. And we would discuss stuff. We pulled out my natal chart and we talked about that for like five hours, sitting isolated her little farm. and I guess religion got brought up and she asked me who I was and what I believed in.
And I immediately felt fear like, Oh gosh, how do I explain, you know, without rejecting one and also explaining what I am and that crazy explosion of like deconstruction just hit me face on. And so I explained to her in the gentlest terms what I believed and she goes, Oh, you're a witch. And I was like, she's like, look, [00:19:00] you're a pagan.
, you're a pantheist. You believe God is in everything. Like you are the earth and , you're a witch right. And I guess fear must have registered. It was like joy being seen so clearly, but then immediate old fear rose up and it was like, Oh God, she knows I got to hide this because that long period of hiding, came up and.
she made it really okay for me, , she's like, Oh, you don't like those terms. Let's talk about it some more. And through those conversations, she really made my fear okay and brought a lot of comfort to me and expressing who I was. and then the great remembering, really hit hard and fast, like dreams became so vivid.
And somewhere around there, I finished Reiki master classes and mindfulness classes. And then I was just really hungry for all the things I could remember. And Nicole, this is where kind of the human teacher started to come into play, where I started to dive into, okay, well, if I know how to do tarot naturally, let's book learn it too.
Right. And if I know how to do wishcraft, let's book [00:20:00] learn it. And if I know how to do energy healing, let's book learn it. Right. if I know ancestral stuff, let's book learn. And I just started to do all of that. and then COVID, and so that's like incubation period, I guess, for all of that stuff to integrate.
and through that time, my father passed and crossed over and that's when fear just left my body. Right. Right. Right. I was like, well, what's there to be afraid of? I might as well just live it publicly now. and just not worry about it. and those who care will stay and those who don't will make new friends with someone else.
Right? and so now I feel like I'm just bathing in myself and it feels like adventure and curiosity and discovering, how do I be as transparent as I possibly can? And how do I own the, I don't know, and how do I own the past?
I just made the motion of like joining my hands together. I'm on a podcast. Listeners can't see that, like connecting and bringing all of that together, bringing my past and honoring it, like who I was and how important that was to me. And then now who I really am and rectifying those two together. and it is interesting cause I [00:21:00] do meet a lot of stout, devout Christians.
But because I have all this knowledge of scripture and ancient text, it's kind of fun to have conversations now and dive into it with people, but in a very gentle way, not in a way that's, shaming or anger, right? Even though I had to go through that period.
I don't know,
Nicole Bills: Tianna, if you remember that time we went to Arkansas and that one woman, , she set me off with, like, I can't believe you're saying that!
That's so misogynistic and racist! But yeah, that anger had to come out and go away and be a catalyst to learn how to forgive.
Nicole Parish: one of the things that is coming up of curiosity and actually of many things, but this is the top one, I'm hearing the word catalyst. So we have catalyst moments and catalyst people in our lives. And ultimately my question is, do you think of yourself as a catalyst? And so my examples are, Tianna said to you, Hey, there's a disconnect.
So that was a catalyst moment. That's how I'm seeing it. And she stepped in, did that, and [00:22:00] got you moving to something else. And then that woman in Costa Rica, she's a catalyst person, potentially. She was so beautifully asking you questions, accepting you wherever you are. And I imagine how you refer to her.
Anyone could come in with I don't know if that's actually what one of her roles is, but it sounds like it was certainly that way for her moment with you. And so what I'm hearing is to ask you, do you think of yourself as a catalyst for family members, friends, for your clients, anything like that?
Nicole Bills: I think spirit can use anybody in any way. Right. Right. There's that to the old scripture love, like using a burning bush, like anything can be used in your life as a pivotal thing. I do think that with clients, I mean, yeah, that's the job, right? or that's the joy of the job is to take people where they are and help them discover how to love all of [00:23:00] themselves.
Even the dark shadowy parts that they've rejected. How to bring that to light and love it and accept it and move forward as a complete expression of themselves.
Nicole Parish: What I'm hearing is that. You think in moments you are the catalyst for some people and that anyone can be a catalyst at different points. And what I've noticed is some people tend towards certain roles. Like some people are bulldozers where they'll come in and they'll go, this system is no longer working.
And I see that you or this group of people, whoever it might be, Needs an outside force to come in and bulldoze it down. Some people are visionary. Some people are the nurturers, just different things. And I was just hearing psychically to ask you about Catalyst.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. So with those kind of things that you're categorizing there, I feel like I'm probably more the nurturer role.
when you say bulldozer, it makes me think about a parenting book that I read way back at Alaska when I shifted my entire parenting style, which I was the yellow truck parent. And just like you, I'm [00:24:00] authoritarian, we're going to do it this way to, how do I nurture you to be yourself and live with the consequences?
Because there's consequences to every choice. And so how do we live with those in a way without judgment, right? But with discernment. And so I feel like I try to help people open themselves up to themselves. So if that's their dream work, if that's their tarot, but it's really pulling things out of them that they already know versus me leading a horse to water and being like, here, see the pond drink, it's more like, well, what do you think about that?
And how do you feel about that? This is how I see it. This is what I think could be good for you. It's going to be hard, but we can walk together, So I feel more nurturing than that.
Tianna: Yeah, both both Nicoles, actually, you guys are both great communicators that I will reach out to when I'm like, how do I say this?
what do you think, so I appreciate that. and Nicole builds, yeah, you're very nurturing and you always have a really. Great way of saying something or approaching or asking the right questions to help. someone find that within themselves. And I appreciate that a lot about you.
And I appreciate that [00:25:00] you shared, when you were talking about these different points in your life on your journey that you shared, yeah, there is an angry phase , because again, I do think that we're in a really powerful, pivotal time on the planet where a lot of people
Are going to be waking up. And a lot of people from their childhood and yours is a little bit different, but have been raised in some kind of, belief system that might not have been completely aligned or, accepting of their soul's truth.
And so just to , share like, Oh, here's where I am now. But there was a phase where I was really angry and there was a phase when I would get really triggered and that's okay. Just kind of helping people to see That you have your own path. We each have our own path and it might be rocky to get there, but, it's okay all the way along the line, for us remembering or rediscovering or uncovering who we are.
And one of my questions along that line is, I mean, because from childhood, you already kind of had innately this [00:26:00] awareness of like how to heal your dog. So , I'm guessing that you've had other lifetimes where you were the healer and, have you tapped into that, much as far as other lifetimes where you were utilizing these gifts or living in this way connected with the land and so forth?
Nicole Bills: Oh, I love that you asked that because I'm immediately thinking of our conversation in Peru. I think it was our first night in Peru together. And I told you about another Nicole who, who was in my line and I wasn't sure whether it was me talking to my present self or whether it was an ancestor in DNA.
and I still don't feel very clear about it. And I've stopped really. Worrying so much like I used to really want to define. Oh, is this a bloodline ancestor? Or is this a past life regression ancestor is this something in my epigenetics, you know? And I just try to just accept whatever comes through and without worrying about that because I figured there'll be a period Probably when I cross over when it becomes very clear to me and so I don't need to rush toward it.
okay. [00:27:00] But to circle back to the answer is that ancestor came through. it was the energy medicine book that I was reading that I think you also had, we were kind of discussing that and. I kept remembering, I kept being told, you're gonna remember all of these techniques that, you know, as I kept learning all these different things and they were like, that's not it.
That's not it. they being my team, when they communicate with me and or spirit, whatever we want to call it. And, I stumbled upon that book just by. Coincidence, even though I don't believe in coincidences, but , it just seemed very, very providential running into this book, picking it up. And that's when I got a very clear message of, yes, this is your next step.
, this is going to help you remember more. and so I signed up for those very expensive classes, and I was very trepidatious about the whole thing and , it all is working out really well, but it's caused. it's just been an interesting journey with energy medicine. , I'm learning how to, remember the people , in my past or my own past lives of things that I used to do with regards [00:28:00] to energy systems of the body rather than calling things up, which is root work or calling things down like Reiki, divine energy.
It's about helping the physical form of the body energy feel more aligned and more. Renewed so that it can call things up and it can call things down. And then now you become that full expression of the tree where you're moving forward in life. Just, Ooh, I feel like I could get a little excited and go off on a tangent here, but yeah.
Nicole Parish: and so when you talk about energy medicine and energy work, what would that look like a client coming to you? And can you share a story about that? So our listeners have more understanding.
Nicole Bills: Okay. So what I feel like I understand you asking me is what is physical, instead of calling something up or down, what does that look like for the body and how to help heal that?
So there's nine energy. There's, there's a lot of energy systems in the body, but there's like nine big ones that was systematized back in the eighties by Donna Eden. and she pulls from all different walks of, [00:29:00] of ancients and teachings like meridians and chakras and radiant circuits and, Celtic weaves and triple warmer and all this stuff.
and she teaches how to harmonize the body so that you can do great spiritual work and you can do great root work. but this is fully aligned and harmonizing. and when I find, so, let's see a personal story. I had a client come in who was doing a lot of Reiki with a really great practitioner out back East.
And, there's no shade to that practitioner whatsoever, but this client moved to Texas and was feeling like a sickness, just not feeling very good. constantly tired, brain fog, all that good stuff. And she felt like Reiki wasn't, Reiki was making it worse. And I was like, well, Reiki is not making it worse, but you're ungrounded.
You're not grounded at all. Were you not taught to ground? And she told me like one thing that she did. She's like, Oh, I do my yoga classes once a week and I'm grounded there. And I'm like, Whoa. If we're going to call in energy, we need to be a vessel to do that. And [00:30:00] in order to be a vessel to do that, we have to harmonize our body.
With that client teaching her how to deeply ground herself, would be one example. but there's other things. those systems all do lots of different stuff for the body. and so every session that clients come in is going to be different based on their needs of that day sometimes. And then if they stick with me, it's like a longer work of balancing and harmonizing.
but I feel like my main purpose is to teach people this rather than just saying, well, just come see me and I'll help you. I really want to teach people. So every session I'm teaching people, this is another tool you can use. This is another intention you can do. This is another thing to keep helping your body come into this harmonized place so that it works congruently with Western medicine or Eastern medicine or spiritual work and all that good stuff.
Tianna: Yeah, I found it really helpful when I had a session with you. as far as, yeah, I do think that we don't have enough ways to ground and we're not grounding it enough. And again, like moving into this big spiritual activation, higher frequencies, we're moving into [00:31:00] 5d and the new earth and all of this great stuff.
We need to really be able to ground and embody that. And, so I was surprised when, I didn't really know exactly what the session was going to be like with you. And you gave me a lot of different techniques that, were really in my body, body base simple things that I could do, but really help ground the energy.
And I think a lot of us need that. And of course, you guys know, I love astrology and I keep, learning more and more. So I look at a lot of things through that framework. And right now. the lunar nodes, the North node and South node, which affect us collectively for a year and a half, approximately, they just moved into the archetypes of Pisces North node and Virgo South node and Pisces is, maybe arguably the most spiritual of all the signs because it's the last sign in the zodiac wheel before merging in to, the oneness.
and then it's opposite sign Virgo is an earth sign, very earthy. So when you're talking about, your tree, I was just thinking, the roots are the Virgo. And then, branches up [00:32:00] are, the Pisces and, the trunk, the body in between, like the energy medicine that you're learning and practicing and teaching people really can help us because the bridging Of the North note in the South note. It's not like we're supposed to choose one over the other. It's like, we want to have access to both, but we have to learn how to integrate them. And I think that the tools that you share with people help to really integrate both of those. Yes.
Nicole Bills: Oh, that's so well said.
Yeah. I feel like energy medicine is the trunk, right? It's you have to have healthy roots. You have to have healthy branches and you have to have a healthy trunk and they all work synergistically together. And I do feel like that's kind of where my work is moving toward is showing people how to be.
Sometimes I think of like an Easter Island head, you know, like holding this. space so that we're able to do the work that we need to do, whatever that work is. but we have to be at our most harmonious. I was going to say healthiest, but I feel like that's has other connotations for people, but I feel like harmonized, like if our body can be harmonized and if we can learn simple techniques [00:33:00] paired with intention and knowledge to create a harmonious body, then clarity becomes.
So much easier to access discernment becomes so much easier to access. and then this great healing can happen both past lives, whether ancestors or yourself in moving forward into this new world. It's exciting. So there is something I want to circle back to you said alignment. and I love, you brought up something about learning to be in alignment or whatever.
And I love that part of my anger phases, right? And I love that owning of, this imperfect and unpleasant stages that I went through because for me, I find a lot of people come and they're like, I just want to be in alignment, but they feel shame about their misalignment.
or they cast harsh, judgments on themselves. And I love teaching people that misalignment is this beautiful gift that you get. Where you get self discovery and you get to start to learn like misalignment is, the yellow light in traffic laws, right? it's the time to slow down and pause and look around and see [00:34:00] why, I'm feeling this visceral anger, So that means I need to change something. what do I need to change? Is it within? Is it? Around me, but it's a gift. This misalignment is a gift. It's not fun, but it's a gift.
Nicole Parish: This is a, ancestors slash a dad question for you. So
, my dad was a minister and he had two things that he said often.
We heard this often, which was beautiful. He said, seek God first and always listen to your inner voice. Which was perfection for literally couldn't have been better wording. Yeah. Have this connection with God and also trust our own inner voice.
Yeah.
Nicole Parish: And like with all parents and really significant relationships, my dad and I had issues, yada yada.
We worked through some in life and then others ones , we couldn't get to in life.
Yeah,
Nicole Parish: weren't able to for whatever reason when my dad crossed over about 11 years ago. I called on my dad I'm like dad you ready to work on those things And so we have worked and worked and worked the [00:35:00] last 11 years and often he will come into my sessions Without me calling him and I know if my dad will come to my right side behind my right shoulder when I know he comes in It's automatic that the person I'm working with is working through addiction Abuse, alcoholism, mental health, one of those things or multiple, because my dad, that was part of his journey in his lifetime.
And so he helps me with that. All that being said, listening to your relationship with your father and some of the trials and joys and whatnot, have you continued to work with him or connect with him consciously since he's crossed over?
Nicole Bills: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes. Short answer. Yes. My dad. Oh, I don't know if I can.
Get through all of it without getting emotional because I feel like my dad's passing wasn't that long ago. He definitely comes through in my dreams. That's usually how I see him I feel his presence all the time. It's not like I don't feel his presence sometimes I have to tune in a little bit more to feel it [00:36:00] it's like he's standing a little further back and I have to be like, oh come get a little closer, you know, but in my dreams he comes through so vividly And to my chagrin, there's a dream that I can't necessarily interpret until you just said what you said.
And I feel like I'm starting to get the interpretation of it. So this is really good. So thank you for asking, and being vulnerable. But my dad came to me, I was in Mexico on the beach. Where I go to just decompress and that's usually when it's like my mind is able to just receive a bunch of really vivid dreams And it's a really great trip that I take I give myself every year.
and he comes through with all of these textbooks and scriptures And he's pointing to them and he's like, Nicole, and I didn't know how to tell him in the dream that, well, I don't believe that anymore. I don't agree with that anymore. And I felt really afraid to talk to him about it.
and my father, who has zero tattoos, but in this expression of my dream, he had this, Tattoo on his bicep of a horse running, and I just was like, what the heck does this dream mean? what's going on [00:37:00] here? And I felt, for a couple of days, I just didn't like even want to talk to him. In the conscious mind, because I was like, I don't know how to explain to you, you can see it.
I don't want to talk about it. you can see me, dad, I don't believe in this. So I don't want to have a conversation, but, as you're mentioning that, I realized He probably wants to work with me on what is my new understanding and deconstruction, because we did have these discussions as a child with ancient text.
and so instead of it being a thing I need to be afraid of in my dream, that's probably where I need to start working with him, is uncovering and getting back into reading some of those things.
Nicole Parish: can I ask about the tattoo? Yeah. I was going to say this, if it doesn't resonate, let it go.
Oh, tell me. Did the horses represent freedom?
Nicole Bills: Okay. it's possible. I think it represents more movement. if I were to look at a tarot card, I would say the Knight of Swords, where he's kind of charging and excited. And that's the energy that it felt like. It was like The Knight in Tarot is all about moving forward like, you're not the page anymore.
You've learned. Now it's time to move forward with the mission. And so I [00:38:00] feel like it's that. and also significantly, he was a horse trainer. and so I think that was kind of another confirmation. , do you know what I mean by that? Like, you get several threads of confirmation about something.
Nicole Parish: Yes.
Tianna: Beautiful. So, Nicole, who do you like to work with? , who are we calling in? , you have all of these different tools is there like a certain subset of certain focus of who you , particularly like to work with as far as clients?
Nicole Bills: Oh, it's clients. I was thinking like metaphysically, I'm like,
Tianna: Oh yeah, you can tell that you can share that too. Yeah. No, I just meant, for listeners, if they're like, Oh, how will they know Oh, Nicole is the right person for me because, cause this is what she likes to focus on. And I'm needing that, you know?
Nicole Bills: Yeah. I would say a person who is interested in learning about themselves, however that is. if they're just wanting to. Unpack something more about themselves, they want to go somewhere different than they are and they're interested. They're engaged. They're curious. That's who I like to work with.
Right. So, I think I tend to see a lot of [00:39:00] newer people to stuff like newly awakened. And that's always a joy for me. It really taps into like my past career as an educator and working with kids. I feel like working with somebody who's newly awakened, that's kind of exciting to me. But I also am starting to get people that have been awakened for a long time, but there's a new level that they're wanting to get to in their own understanding.
That's a lot of fun. so I guess anybody curious? Would be the general statement.
Tianna: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. and then tell us again, just kind of the overview of the different types of sessions or offerings that you have.
Nicole Bills: Different types of sessions and offerings, like my elevator pitch.
Tianna: Well, no, I mean, just a regularly talk, but because we've mentioned tarot, we've mentioned energy medicine. I mean, you know, you do what you call a wayfinder session, just kind of brief so that people know, everything that you might be able to support them in.
Nicole Bills: So I call myself a life guide and a healer. and with life guidance, I think they go together, but it helps to have those two definitions. Or two categories so that people understand that some people are really coming for energy healing. and of course, [00:40:00] guidance comes through that. And some people are just coming for guidance, but energy healing comes through that as well.
so they work together, but life guidance, I use techniques as a life guide coach. What I'm using is tarot, dream interpretation and rituals to uncover things. Right. So that helps uncover and guide you in like how we're going to guide stuff. And we use the lunar cycle to reorient productivity, right?
I'm using air quotes for your listeners, but I find helping people to align with the lunar phases, makes the work much more palatable to mind, body energy. It's not as overwhelming. and tarot and dream interpretations and all that uncovers things for themselves so that they can be guided and then learn to guide themselves as well.
And then energy healing, whether it's Reiki, whether it's ancestral, or if it's energy medicine with an energy renewal session, that's all about learning to harmonize your body, how to bring things in and bring things up so that you can be your fullest expression of yourself.
you can show up and engage with the world differently, you show up and engage with yourself differently. so yeah, I guess I'm helping [00:41:00] people untangle like patterns, stress, energy blocks that really kind of keep them feeling stuck and helping them move through that whether it's life guidance or healing to step into clarity and alignment and self trust.
Right. And I use a bunch of different techniques for that, whether it's intuitive, coaching, energy work, mindfulness practices, my hands are flailing all over the screen,
but
Nicole Bills: I'm really guiding clients to release those old cycles and really break through and they reconnect. With that inner wisdom of themselves,
Tianna: right?
As you were describing the things that you, offer, I suddenly threw my, again, astrological lens was like, Oh yeah, this makes so much sense because Nicole is a Capricorn sun and a Pisces rising. And this is a perfect, integration of, the grounded and you're great at like the structure and the organization and that stuff.
And then also the mystery. Pisces, this wonderful mix of very practical and woo together. That's [00:42:00] what I was getting from your description.
Nicole Bills: That's totally it. I'm a practical woo woo.
Nicole Parish: I see a t shirt in the future.
Nicole Bills: I love it. Yeah. You were the catalyst of that, right? Like, there was so long that you were like, how are you going to integrate all this into a nice umbrella? it's very disconnected. You need to work on that. So I did, and 10 years later, voila. Yeah, great.
Tianna: Ooh. Nicole Parish, did you want to ask anything more before we, start to wind things down?
Nicole Parish: Well, I have a big question so as you're talking, I keep having this question rise up. I'm curious if you could briefly think about what was your dad's life purpose? What was your mom's life purpose, whether they fulfilled them or not? This is a big, big question, right?
And then, are you living parts of those life purposes? Like, you have that DNA life purpose, the other DNA life purpose, and is that part of your life purpose?
Nicole Bills: Oof, okay.
Nicole Parish: I know, it's a big question, but I kept thinking about [00:43:00] it.
Nicole Bills: Yeah, , I'll break it down into chunks, but, you're asking, what was my father's life purpose?
And did he fulfill it? I don't know. Other than to raise me up into this world, and that's very egotistical to say, but I feel like he was my safe place.
so he did a good job at that. And, thank you, Nicole, for making me cry on camera. You're welcome. and I would say that I have a very complicated relationship with my mother. and Tianna and I've had some, I think Tianna, you've had some interesting experiences, not even with me in the room, with someone else about talking about my mom and what that was meant for.
But I do think that to give her credit where credit is due, she was meant to break a specific cycle in our DNA. And she did do that.
Nicole Parish: So what I'm hearing is your dad creates safety for people he cares about, and your mom helped Break a cycle,
Nicole Bills: a very vicious cycle. She broke a
Nicole Parish: massive cycle that had been going on for [00:44:00] however long here you are in your work.
Yeah. From what I'm perceiving, you create safe spaces for people to break cycles, to break cycles.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. Yeah. I think for sure. My dad, his thing was always, your father had what he said, , and I totally resonate with that.
Something he said all the time was leave people better than you found them. And I take that to heart.
Nicole Parish: Yeah,
Nicole Bills: so you got to love people how they are and just leave them feeling a little bit better than when you found them
Nicole Parish: Which feels like exactly what you do. I hope so. Thank you for doing this very very meaningful work like when you're about to transition over from this life and Imagining you might go I did it.
I had a meaningful life I was able to create safety and help people change and connect with their own inner wisdom I didn't do it for them. They did it for themselves.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. Oh yeah. So well said. Thank you for that question. That was good.
Nicole Parish: You can thank my guides. Okay. Thank you guys. [00:45:00] They've been saying for like 20 minutes, ask that question.
Ask that question.
Tianna: It's such a big question. Ask the question. Really interesting. You got me thinking like, Oh, , it's a really interesting question for anybody maybe who's listening to ask themselves that as well, and see , and I think, , Nicole's answer, was also valid, like, Oh, who are we to know what our parents, purpose was, but, , from the outside, we might have some ideas and again, like Knowing our own DNA or exploring our own DNA and our ancestors.
It's a very relevant, an interesting thought provoking question. So, yeah. Yeah. That is good. Good job. Nicole's team. Yay. I'll keep you around. She does. she interviews them and , the coal parish she doesn't just take any spirit guide that wants to hang out with her. No, I'm surprised.
Yeah. That is
Nicole Parish: true. What Tianna says. I do an interview process of, my guides and making sure that they're for my highest and best. And I'm for their highest and best for their own growth and evolution as [00:46:00] well as mine. It is an interview process. And I've said no to certain spirits who've come to help saying, Oh, I think I can actually meet someone who meets my needs better.
And I meet their needs better.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. Oh, I do that as well with ancestors,
Nicole Parish: right?
Nicole Bills: There's a huge interview process that happens. because yeah, not everyone's meant to be worked with at that season of life
or
Nicole Bills: that version of life, right? Like this expression of right now, you can wait till the next lifetime or something like that.
but yeah, I love that there was this, teacher in Peru. Do you remember when we went to those
curanderas
and
Nicole Bills: talked to them and he, asked me about my interview process with my guides and I told him just a very simplistic, cause there was difficulty with language barriers, but we were discussing it and I told him a couple questions that I used and he was like no, it needs to be more in depth Because there's a lot around you, and you really need to interview more.
Basically, what he was [00:47:00] telling me, like, your discernment needs to kick in more and ask more questions. not just those couple ones that you're asking. so yeah, that's such a good thing to talk about. Guides and ancestors need to be interviewed. so do life coaches and healers, right? Yeah,
Nicole Parish: I love this because I'm not used to hearing other people talking about interviewing the spirits that come in.
I'm not used to hearing this. So I love hearing that you do it. And for people who are listening and maybe curious about some of the questions, just briefly, some of my Questions are, or it's an intention that I will get the highest level of information possible. So if I'm, let's say I'm working with a human and I want to learn about psychology and I'm going to pick the PhD of the person who has that level of information about psychology.
So for spirits, and if I'm wanting to learn how to read tarot or tarot, I always forget how to pronounce it. Okay, if I want to learn how to read it and I want a spirit helper, I want someone who's master level [00:48:00] at tarot reading and being able to teach me because there are spirits are like, yeah, I know it pretty well.
I would love to come in and help you. Well, I want to master at it. And also one of the things where I've sent some spirits away is when I'm doing energy work, healing work, psychic work, whatever it is, I want to be able to call on a spirit at any time. that I have access to them 24 seven and because I never know when I'm going to call on them.
And some spirits are like, no, I actually have a lot of stuff going on in the spirit realms. I won't be able to come 24 seven. I was like, great to know we're not going to work together. So those are just a couple of things some of my interview questions.
Tianna: Yeah. when you said like, Oh, I'm not used to hearing someone else.
I was thinking maybe it's a Nicole thing.
Nicole Bills: Nicole, what are your big three signs?
Nicole Parish: So I'm Aquarius Leo in cancer.
Nicole Bills: Oh, interesting.
Nicole Parish: Yeah, and it goes, I just love those so much like my Aquarian spirituality, just getting things done, actually. I don't know if that's an aquarium thing, but it's a me thing.
And then the cancer of like the warm [00:49:00] hearth emotions. Now actually, I don't know if these are ac the, the qualities of those signs, but that's how it is in my mind. And then the Leo, I'm a. Big ol personality.
Nicole Bills: I feel like you hit it spot on, Tianna. You agree?
Tianna: Yeah, yeah. It's funny. It's because we share Cancer Leo in our top three and then.
Nicole. Oh, Scorpio, right? right. We share, you and I share Pisces rising and then your Capricorn sun and then your Scorpio moon, correct? Scorpio moon. Yeah. The top three of the people. I know
Nicole Parish: I was going to say, you know, you have a good friend when they're correcting you on what your top three are.
Nicole Bills: No, no, no. You're a Scorpio moon. You dramatic woman.
Nicole Parish: And can see right into the heart of a matter.
Tianna: Yeah, Nicole, is there anything that we haven't touched on that you really, , would love for our listeners to know about you or hear,
Nicole Bills: Oh my gosh, we have another hour. I would say,
, I did create [00:50:00] a, webinar for people to , learn a little bit more. and give them practical techniques to, help their body come into a quick alignment, right? Just like our harmony for them. so it's like a little tutorial webinar talking about why we do what we do and then some techniques to do it daily and then all of that.
Tianna: amazing. I think that's so needed in these times. Oh, that's awesome. So we'll put a link to that. Webinar, and of course we'll put a link to your website. Can you tell listeners what your website is? It's nicolebills. com.
Nicole Bills: and then I'm nicoleparish. com. We use our names. Well,
Tianna: and you're both the N I C O L E.
Cause there's other versions of,
Nicole Bills: there is no other version. It's the best
Nicole Parish: version.
Nicole Bills: It's very
Nicole Parish: clear.
Nicole Bills: Your words. yeah, nicolebills. com. And then if they go forward slash wayfinder, that's where they'll find. That webinar and a bunch of portal links to anything that they want to do. and then I also wanted to offer your listeners, a [00:51:00] discount code, obviously.
Tianna: Oh, awesome.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. They can do, I think I said beyond 20 and that gives like a 20 percent discount.
Tianna: Oh, amazing. Fantastic. Well, it's been such a pleasure to have my two favorite Nicole's together at last.
Nicole Bills: We should do it more often.
Tianna: Yeah, for sure.
Nicole Bills: I really appreciate you having me, Tianna.
This was like a great opportunity. and the questions that both of you asked were initially I felt kind of intimidated, like, Oh my gosh, what are they going to ask? What do I need to know to talk? Like that Capricorn came in and I was just like, How do I prepare for this? but I knew that you were going to be very gentle with me and help me along.
So, but the questions are really, really good. It was better than I could have prepared for. so I really appreciate it.
Tianna: Yeah, I remember early on, like the first couple podcasts that I was on, before doing our own podcast. Yes, I felt so nervous. Why can't they just tell me the questions beforehand?
and sometimes people who are guests will ask like, Oh, can you tell us the what you're going to ask, but really it's such [00:52:00] a conversation, right? And then based on what you say, I find it to be more fun that way. Although, of course we come in sometimes with the general idea of like, Oh, these things I'm really curious about and I want to ask, but mostly it's just kind of like a stream of consciousness.
And it's more fun that way, I think. and then once you've done it a couple of times, you're just like, Oh yeah, this is fun. It's just talking with people about topics that we love. Right. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you so much.
Nicole Parish: So you've mentioned tarot as one of your modalities and I'm curious what some of your other modalities are. Like some people use drums and rattles. Some people use tuning forks, crystal balls, those kinds of things. I tend to use my voice and intention. Those are my big modalities. Many people use physical modalities.
I'm curious what some of yours are, whether you're currently using them or have used them in the past.
Nicole Bills: Yes. So if I am trying to help someone get into that flow state, so that they can [00:53:00] understand stuff, then it's all energy medicine. It's the techniques to ground yourself , with mindfulness, like to drop anchor and sink despite the chaos around you.
But , we use a lot of that to kind of tune in and get the body into the state where we can receive messages and have discernment about it. and then with dream interpretation, that takes a lot of work because sometimes people are afraid of the dreams that they have.
and so that's a lot of meditation with my voice, and getting them in that state to be comfortable to sleep and to have these dreams come up and know that it's going to be. Okay. And all good and all messages are good. yeah, I mean, I've used drumming before. I do like it. I just, my ADHD kicks in and I'm not really sure if I'm on beat or not.
And so I get a little nervous about that. So I find that my voice feels more intuitive. and then also having them do the physical techniques of energy medicine and aligning their meridians and chakras and grounding themselves. So
Tianna: as a hypnotherapist, I was just going to say, I [00:54:00] like what you did with your voice there.
When you changed your voice, you're like, what's my voice? And I was like, yes. Yeah, I felt the shift when you were saying that with, and I was like, yes, that voice , that's the voice. . Yeah.
Nicole Parish: See, Ana just modeled it right there, Ana. Yeah, she did.
Nicole Bills: I know her, voice easily. I can recognize it easily when she does it, but my hypno voice
Yeah. the hypno voice. Yeah.
Nicole Parish: Mm-hmm . Yeah. And then I had another question, but I forgot. So I'm gonna ask son my spirit guide. What the other question was.
He says it's too long of a question. Okay. Because he said, this was your question, but it's like very deep and long. And he said, my boyfriend's about to walk in the door.
Nicole Bills: Okay.
Tianna: Yeah. anyway, so when we have, Nicole Parish guest host, we, we get like three, four, five, whoever, however many spirit guides.
So we're not just getting questions from Nicole. We're getting questions from all these other guides. So that's a pretty good deal. I'm liking it.
Nicole Parish: Yeah,
Tianna: I
Nicole Parish: do too. Can I ask something about your body? This is nothing [00:55:00] with the interview. Can I ask something about your body? Is there something going on with, your foot?
So is it okay if I just go with it?
Nicole Bills: Yeah. Okay. So, no, I did just think of something. is it a physical thing you're talking about? Mm-hmm . in Mexico I had, two really painful blisters occur. and they're healing and I was just like touching it. Being like, oh, it feels so much better.
But, is it your right foot? I can get it backwards. it's right and left both feet.
Nicole Parish: Okay. They were just talking about your feet, but also specifically I just felt your right foot so. I'm asking my spirit guide. Why? Like, why are they saying this? Because it's a blister.
It's going to heal. it's almost like this, what I'm hearing is like a little mosquito in my ear. Like it's a little annoyance. It's a little annoyance. And it's this, like, oh, it's just an annoyance. I won't pay attention to it. It's just an annoyance.
Nicole Bills: Okay. Well, that makes me think about, a cyst.
That I have on my right ankle.
Nicole Parish: Okay. Okay, good. And they're saying, so what I'm hearing is there's this healing balm, that this can be, is it a physical [00:56:00] healing balm? I see salve, but that you might actually need something. I just bought
Nicole Bills: two days ago. I bought from a black. Indigenous person.
I don't know if it's going to help, but it's a staff. Yeah.
Nicole Parish: Okay. Beautiful. that feels significant, but also it's like the classic, I don't know why they said classic, but this is going like so deep that it's hard for me to put words to, cause I'm hearing things, seeing things, feeling things of creating this exquisite foundation in your body of ease.
So it's like you're going through your body. I don't know if this accurate but tweaking here and tweaking there. Oh, there's a little discomfort I'm gonna tweak it. Oh, there's a little discomfort. I'm gonna tweak it. Is there a message there? Yes, there is Is there a message there? Nope, not in that one. And it's just going it feels like so they're showing a tree so you've spoken about the tree a lot And so imagine we're talking Physical.
Nicole Bills: Yeah.
Nicole Parish: No, all the levels, physical, emotional, mental, spirit, bodies of your tree. And it just [00:57:00] feels like now in your life. Thank you. This is it. They're acknowledging where you are in your life. You can just go into a physical thing or an emotional thing, go, Oh, I'm going to shift it. Oh, I'm going to ship.
And it just feels easy.
Nicole Bills: Yeah.
Nicole Parish: It's funny. It feels easy.
Nicole Bills: Yeah. Well, it is. It's gotten a lot easier, but it is interesting with regards to the feet. If I can get this in before your boyfriend walks in, but he's
Nicole Parish: welcome to come in . Yeah.
Nicole Bills: I first started my journey with energy medicine, I was very unaware of my feet and this other healer.
She only did like the first 2 classes with me. So she's not like an energy medicine practitioner, but. She's been a healer also from a very early age, different techniques and styles. And she was messing with my feet and she was like, Oh, hon, you are so clogged in your feet. Like you've taken on all this healing with people and you're not discharging it properly, which is causing you to be ungrounded and your polarities out.
And I [00:58:00] was like, is that why it hurts when people touch my feet? And she was like, yes. And so she showed me how to clear my channels more deeply. And it's now like, my feet don't hurt. Anymore, which is great. and that's something I do every single day is clear my channels, , so that I can be deeply grounded.
And I was very annoyed when I got those two blisters, because I can't walk and I don't feel grounded and this is irritating me.
Nicole Parish: That little, the mosquito, the irritation. And thank you for saying that. Cause it really helped validate for me that even though you and I and Tianna, we've all been doing this for decades, right?
Yeah. Or at least many years. And, , confirmation feels good. It's still, confirmation is great. Yeah. And to hear this. There are multiple meanings in it, but the overall meaning of you're so in tune with your body and the tweaking is just getting easier and easier and easier. And also to be able to discern, is this a mostly physical level?
Oh, is it an energetic level? Oh, is it spirit? Is it [00:59:00] emotional level? Like that discernment is I hear you're in the middle of. fine tuning that even more, you've been fine tuning it, but you know how we go into greater expansions. A whole fine tuning is happening with you right now.
Nicole Bills: For sure. I really have gotten comfortable with understanding, , because when I used to intuit something.
Tianna: You.
Nicole Bills: There's this, Discomfort. I used to talk about confirmation, but , I would intuit something about someone's body and I would ask them and they'd be like, no,, incorrect.
It's not that. And I'm like, well, why did I get this message? And where is this coming from? And what do I do?, or if I say like your large intestine meridian, I'm like, Oh, it's really clogged. We need to clear that out because , you seem like you're controlling a lot of stuff in your life.
And they're like, Oh, my it bands are always sore. You know, like it's a physical injury and it always is there. And I've started to get really comfortable with understanding that everything has an energetic component and a spiritual component as well as a physical manifestation. And that when we feel one.
If that's all we see, [01:00:00] sometimes , it's our job to also show that when the body feels safe energetically, because there's harmony happening, then the physical body actually heals quicker. Yes.
Nicole Parish: It's such a great awareness for people.
Thank you. And I love . You got that. , when I say something going on with your feet, you're like, Nope. I'm like, okay, I'm going to stay with it.
Nicole Bills: Yeah.
Nicole Parish: Yeah. Because as all three of us probably like, no, I'm going to trust the process here. There is something going on with the feet.
Tianna: Thank you so much, Nicole. Thank
Nicole Parish: you. Thank you. Thank you.
Tianna: Bye. Bye.
Nicole Parish: How fun.