How can we bridge the sacred and the everyday? 💖 This week’s guest, Helen Quail, shares how embodied practices foster aliveness and guide us through transformative times. Helen is a guide, mentor and author devoted to the profound experience of embodied awakening. We explore rewriting paradigms around mothering, the rise of the Divine Feminine and grounding spirituality in simple, powerful practices. Helen is passionate about helping others reconnect with their inner wisdom and align with the frequencies of their soul.
Highlights:
What does embodied awakening truly mean & how can we balance spiritual evolution with living fully in the body?
Helen's transformational journey from chronic illness to spiritual awakening—how surrender & acceptance became the turning points in her healing.
How does Helen redefine "mothering" as a spiritual & cosmic paradigm, extending beyond biological motherhood?
The role of Divine Feminine energy in healing the imbalance between form and formlessness, & how this is shaping our collective consciousness.
What are the challenges and opportunities of grounding spiritual practices in daily life, especially in times of turbulence?
Why simplicity is key in spiritual practices and how reconnecting with core truths can lead to deeper fulfillment.
How can we cultivate a mature spirituality that balances personal intuition with the wisdom of traditions while embracing the mystery of the present moment?
Living as a "mystic in the marketplace"—bringing spiritual awareness into everyday life, relationships, and communities.
How intentional energy fields through collective meditation can transform personal and global experiences.
How does Helen guide individuals to move through their unique challenges while embracing their multidimensionality and spiritual wholeness?
HELEN QUAIL is an internationally recognized guide & mentor specializing in embodied awakening, consciousness evolution & the healing arts. She is the author of Coming Home: Sharings along the road - How to live a life of embodied love as an awakened human. Helen’s teachings are rooted in lived experience & authenticity. Her offerings include group meditations, live events & mentoring sessions designed to support individuals in stepping into their full, multidimensional selves. Learn more about Helen & her work at helenquail.com. Find her on Insight Timer.
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. She helps Lightworkers step into their Soul Destiny through her spiritual mentorship program, Unlock Your Soul Destiny. 💖 Her book “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self” is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
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TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Tianna: Welcome, Helen. So great to have you on the podcast.
[00:00:04] Helen: Thank you, Tianna. I'm so glad to be here feeling very welcomed.
[00:00:11] Tianna: Thank you. Yeah. So I first came across you and your work at that eclipse event that we had in Austin area by our astrologer friends, Shannon and Russell. I was volunteering for them.
[00:00:26] There was this table and your book was on there I was flipping through it while I was standing there and I was like, Oh, this is a really interesting book. And I made a note like, Oh, I want to go back and check this person out , and have a conversation with her. So here we are having that conversation.
[00:00:41] I always like to hear about people's spiritual journey first, how you came to be interested in spirituality. What was that journey like?
[00:00:49] Helen: Yeah, thank you, Tianna. Yeah, and what a momentous time to connect the Eclipse portal, like, I'm getting chills just mentioning it.
[00:00:58] yeah, this has been in my awareness, before we were talking about my journey and I want to kind of preface , with the realization that nothing is separate from the journey. And the more that I've gone on in my life, the more I look back to like early years and recognize that everything was part of the design.
[00:01:19] There's just degrees that we are. awake and conscious to it. So I am from Scotland as you know, and as you can tell by my accent and grew up there in a family with three brothers and was very like academic as a child and brought up as a Catholic, Irish Catholic ancestry and really no interest at all in religion or spirituality.
[00:01:44] My first big, opportunity was becoming a mother at a very young age and then my daughter being diagnosed with a very life impacting condition that requires lifelong 24 hour care. And that changed me and I continued on a particular path that wasn't consciously open to my spirituality.
[00:02:08] I was studying for a master's and then a PhD and then I got very, very sick. So like a lot of healers, which is very much part of my strand, the wounded healer, I got very ill for a very long time, for six years with chronic fatigue syndrome or ME. So much so that I was in a wheelchair.
[00:02:28] And couldn't work, couldn't function. I just got married. My then partner became my carer. So that was really the big turning point and not straight away. I was very skeptical and very resistant, but through the intensity of my suffering, I reluctantly started to explore different therapies and holistic approaches and open up.
[00:02:52] That was in my late twenties. And so really since that time, there's been different iterations, different cycles of the path. And one thing I've always known since I was like a very young child is that I was here to write at least one book. And it's not the one that I've written, it's the one that I'm working on just now.
[00:03:13] I'll tell you more about that later. , so for almost close to 30 years and for the last 15 or so, I'd say that my life has really been, it's been the central focus of , my devotion of. my decision making of where I live, of everything, really placing it the best that I can in the hands of my soul and listening to that.
[00:03:35] Tianna: Wow. , , I guess there's a couple things there. One would be, your daughter and that care that was needed. And then the other one being becoming very ill. do you feel that any of those were sort of part of the plan that your soul had set them up to be sort of activating or initiating experiences or what are your thoughts on that?
[00:03:56] Yeah.
[00:03:57] Helen: 100%. Yeah, I mean, at the core of my life design is rewriting paradigms around mothering. So my soul set me up to be mother of five beings, all very different, three with special needs, one adopted from Ethiopia. That was not on the human radar and that's absolutely the core of. The book that I'm working on and part of the messages that come through me, it's at the heart of the conversations around the shift in collective consciousness.
[00:04:32] People talk about the rise of the divine feminine and that's absolutely key. And so is. The rewriting of mothering across all levels. So my sole design was to not only, like, I'm wired to work at a lot of the higher levels. I'm very comfortable in the higher levels. And it's been a real challenge for me to kind of step down and come into body like big time.
[00:04:57] 10 years ago, I was traveling globally, offering international events and stopped everything. Like, you're asking about the spiritual journey. I stepped away completely. I needed to go deeper into the internal shadow work and the grounding and the embodiment. And so the last 10 to 15 years or so has been a more and more of a focus on what I call embodied awakening, which again, it's not just the embodiment.
[00:05:25] We are not a body, we are consciousness experiencing a body. So there's this constant dance. And my experiences as a mother in this realm in the grounded realm are absolutely essential as well as the connections and the frequencies that I'm in touch with across many other realms, if that makes sense.
[00:05:46] Tianna: Yeah, when I first started on my spiritual path, definitely, I was not doing embodied awakening. I was meditating and leaving my body and that felt wonderful. And then after three hours of that, I would drop back in my body and be like, Oh, this place is so hard. Why are people like this, and so I see that I get that a lot and it was actually.
[00:06:08] a number of years on my spiritual journey before that understanding, that piece came in about, Oh, I'm supposed to be my higher self on the planet, not escape the planet to go to my higher self. I need to be my higher self here. And I do think that as far as, the divine feminine activating on the planet, so much of that is that embodiment work, right?
[00:06:33] That's been missing, I don't know what your thoughts are on past lives. But I know I've experienced a number of my past lives where I was a man. And I was maybe an ascetic or I was doing these practices that weren't connected to my body at all. And it's not that those are, wrong or bad, that could be for that life, right?
[00:06:52] In that life, that was how I focused. But this life I think the times that we're in, or even the body that we've chosen, it might be that it's what's needed now, because on the planet, we've gotten so out of balance, even in spiritual realm, as far as not honoring our body as the sacred temple.
[00:07:13] Helen: Yeah, yeah. I mean, this speaks to the great rebalancing. My kind of remit, if you like, is very, very cosmic, very broad, even as it is grounded, like here in the Earth. And so we're seeing a great rebalancing. I wrote about this years ago. on the planet and beyond and we can look at it through the lens of masculine and feminine and also through the lens of form and formless of spirit and incarnation.
[00:07:39] So what you're describing in your experience of disembodied practice. We all know that to some degree and I continually come back to the infinity symbol. It's such a powerful symbol and metaphor for so many levels of what it is to be alive and what it is to be in this dance of consciousness in a body.
[00:08:00] So the disembodied experience is something that it's often a stage in the awakening process. And because I have so much galactic wiring and multidimensional wiring, it's very comfortable for me. The challenge for me is to be embodied and therefore. I can deeply relate to the many of us that feel that challenge and also feel at the same time like the joy and the excitement the opportunity of being in a body and also the grief of What feels like our disconnect from our star families, from these other realms from the access to levels of consciousness that we're so familiar with.
[00:08:40] And like you say coming back in after a profound meditation and be like, Oh, this you know, and it's the whole point when we drop this body as every single one of us will. We are returned to formlessness. We are returned to source. We are source. We are returned to pure consciousness.
[00:09:00] And what we gain in terms of infinite awareness, we lose what it is to have hands and feet and touch and form and be in amongst the beauty on this earth. So it is an amazing journey and I don't whitewash it in any way. My work, my meditations, my writing are founded on a commitment to authenticity and it's an authenticity founded in my own lived experience.
[00:09:29] Before I got sick, when I was just beginning to get sick, My background at that time was in adult learning and education and my PhD was on the topic of experiential learning, which makes me laugh because down the road, that's really what my work is. I don't call myself a spiritual teacher.
[00:09:47] I've come through many, many traditions and have a lot of those teachings and wisdoms. And my role at this point in my journey is not to teach. Specific lineages or practices, it is to be a companion and a mentor and a guide, with each of us as we move through these vast shifts in consciousness and very much tapping into the power of our coherence or collective consciousness.
[00:10:18] So. What I love more than anything is calling together as many of us as possible that feel a resonance to enter a frequency field, to develop that frequency field that's in service for the whole of humanity. And that might sound kind of vague, what I always. Orient with and explore in my meditations and in my work is bringing it back, bringing it back again and again through each layer of our system, through our mental body, our emotional body, our physical bodies.
[00:10:55] And each one of us is calibrated uniquely. That's the whole point. Otherwise we wouldn't exist. So together, What is possible in terms of the frequency field is so much more and then each one of us taps into that where is appropriate for us in that moment and as I say it's always part of something greater, it always is anyway. I'm just really explicit and intentional about that.
[00:11:21] It's what I'm here for. I'm here to work with people on a one to one basis. I'm here to work with groups and very much here to work with the collective field. And there's quite a few of us. I wouldn't dream of giving any kind of number, but there's certainly A growing awakening of beings that recognize this too, that they chose to be here at this particular moment in time, on this planet, in space, to be part of this wild ride and great adventure and this shift in consciousness.
[00:11:55] Tianna: Absolutely. What would you say as someone who has a lived experience of having had a body that wasn't healthy at one point and probably was in a lot of pain? And there's a lot of people who have different types of, debilitating, conditions in their body. What is it? What advice or guidance would you give them for being embodied when they're like, Oh, it doesn't feel good to be in this body, or I'm trapped in this body or how can I love this body?
[00:12:23] It's giving me so much pain
[00:12:25] Helen: Yeah, that's a really good question, Tianna. And I think it's right at the heart of the human experience, because what our ego does is. all the time it sets preferences It's like, yeah, if it looks like this or if the experience is like that and that's okay, we can recognize that and then let go of it.
[00:12:43] So one of the deepest challenges of being in a body is being in a body that is in intense pain that can't function, that is dying, that is aging. my daughter, bless her, is one of my biggest teachers. I don't want to go into her particular circumstances because that's her story. She is literally from my perception a master in terms of her soul and she chose to incarnate in a particular body that would never have independence and would always need care.
[00:13:11] And I think too Tianna about Ram Dass, like incredible teacher, incredible wisdom and so powerful with everything that he knew and learned throughout his whole life as he got closer to death. And had the challenges, the health challenges that he struggled for, I think he said something like for about six months, he was just pissed off.
[00:13:34] He was depressed. He was like, this is too hard, right? To lose independence, to have all of these challenges. So it's my experience, especially at the kind of lowest point, if you like, I very much experienced it as a death. We go through many, many deaths in this lifetime. And I remember surrendering to that death.
[00:13:56] And that surrender was the ultimate turning point of the recovery and the healing, which took years. But it was like not resisting what is. So there's this mastery in being with what is, that is profound wisdom and profound spiritual wisdom. That does not mean that we are passive, that we are powerless.
[00:14:21] That can be a shadow of the femme, what we characterize as the feminine in particular. To be with what is, is the ultimate truth and courage. And I know many people who have significant health challenges of various natures and are resolute on their path. And being honest and courageous in that is being with the truth of what the challenges are.
[00:14:48] It's not bypassing and pretending, it's all love and light. It's all a piece of cake. It can be heartbreaking and despair making and all of the things. And perhaps the ultimate. Ground, it is the ultimate ground, your body is the ultimate ground for exploring what it is to be consciousness in a body that is going to change and is going to die at some point.
[00:15:17] So it's right at the edge of this work, and I think it's a more accurate and honest perception, not to believe in some narrative that if we just do the right things, our body will be __ xYZ, like that's more delusion and illusion, podcast called Beyond the Illusion, like, against the spiritual shadow of the new age.
[00:15:39] Well, you're just not spiritual enough. You're just not like doing the right manifestations or mantras or whatever nonsense. Nonsense. We're all given different cards and I'm not talking about any kind of fixed karma. I'm talking more about a set of ingredients and we can play with those.
[00:15:55] And we have big themes and currents in our life that we bring in our design. Right. And. How we use those or don't use those is really, that's where there's some element of free will. So that same applies with bodies and with their health and with their resilience and with various different aspects of what we choose to about gender and location.
[00:16:16] I mean, location has been one for me since I was a teenager. I always was like, what am I doing number one on the planet and number two, like in Scotland particularly, I felt like a fish out of water. And since I was a teenager, I knew I would leave and live somewhere completely different, like completely different.
[00:16:37] And then later on, as I became more conscious and awake, that was shown to me really clearly, that was always part of my design and trajectory. And I knew it would happen. It was like, it's a case of timing and so on. And it's continued to be like that over the last, say, 10 or 15 years as I listen.
[00:16:55] And I'm moved, sometimes moved around a lot and sometimes placed in certain places. So it's at the heart of the wonder and the beauty of the life journey for each one of us is that it is utterly unique. There's no one size fits all. There's no one set of teachings. Of course there's core universal truths.
[00:17:17] I've recognized for quite a while that we are in an era of the opportunity to step into a more mature relationship with our own consciousness, a more mature spirituality, if you like. And that's with great respect for all of the traditions and There are more of us here that are here to walk our own path in whatever way we may or may not integrate different traditions.
[00:17:46] The shadow of that is, well, there's lots of shadows, but self delusion and individualism and so on. . The benefits are like a profoundly unique and intimate relationship with our own source self that is part of this great soup, this great collective soup and what we're here for.
[00:18:07] Tianna: So I'm imagining when you're saying this mature spirituality based on what you said, that it's kind of, connecting more to our own inner knowing versus maybe external traditions or guidance and having our very individual unique path.
[00:18:23] Is that? What you mean,
[00:18:25] Helen: partly, yeah. And rather than verses, I would say additional to, and it's part of the rebalancing that we touched on earlier with the feminine. I mean, the feminine path is the one rooted in intuition, rooted in the heart, rooted in the body. And I'm generalizing for the sake of brevity, we could unpack all of this.
[00:18:44] And the more kind of masculine path is typically transcendent and more mental, and more conceptual and so on. And people talk about divine union, and again it gets very hijacked and very distorted. Divine union is within, whether or not we explore it externally, and it's this rebalancing that we're pointing to, that brings together heart and mind, soul and body.
[00:19:10] Form and formlessness. So, the intuition and the heart, for example, have been so devalued for thousands of years with the imbalances of patriarchy. And still is. I mean, it's like there's a whole conversation about what we value as a culture, if we just take America or the West as an example, and what's valued.
[00:19:33] You could quote endless examples of how imbalanced this still is. So part of the broader and deeper shift is the recognition and the valuing of the heart and the intuition as well as. Purified mind, mind in service to something greater intellect, form, structure, and bringing these together.
[00:19:56] And so in terms of paths and traditions, it's not one or the other, like for any one of us, we might feel called to explore traditions. Part of my path was to explore a whole variety of energy healing traditions that as I did, I recognized them. And then I would get to a point where my inner guidance was like, okay, now you've reactivated, remembered, integrated, continue on your own path.
[00:20:23] This is not your path in this lifetime. It has been in other lifetimes. So not to get confused because we recognize something, because there's that kind of resonance That's just what we're here for. I keep hearing in my own life, for instance, just because there's a resonance or a recognition, I'm actually here for something new and many of us are.
[00:20:43] We're not here just to relive things. Waking up is waking up in this now, like what does this soul want to experience? What is happening in collective consciousness and what is actually alive and true? in this now, not from memory, not from concept or idea. And that's a direct inquiry, which can feel kind of scary for the ego.
[00:21:13] It's scary for the mind. The mind likes to know how things are. The orientation, the work that I do is founded in direct inquiry, direct inquiry that's not disembodied. It's like embodied non duality. So it's in the moment, it's alive, it's direct, and it's direct in including the body. Not leaving it behind, not leaving anything behind.
[00:21:35] Tianna: Can you give us an example of what that might look like? This inquiry that's direct in the body, like today, is that a practice that you do every day is connect inward and do some sort of inquiry? Or is it inspired in the moment
[00:21:51] Helen: yeah,
[00:21:51] Tianna: it's
[00:21:51] Helen: really, . A relationship with life, Tianna.
[00:21:55] So in this moment, for example, we can become more aware of our breath, you and I here, and just aware of our bodies as we're sitting and connecting and aware that there are two beings having some kind of conversation and there's all sorts of exchanges happening in other levels and starting to shift, expand awareness into that which is also here.
[00:22:30] So I like the idea of playing. It's like playing with apertures, on a camera, like zooming out, zooming in. So not just like zooming out, leaving the body and, like flying around. Awareness is not out here, I'm using the word awareness for simplicity, all that is, source, is everywhere, it's in our fingernail, right, it's in our breath, it's inside the body, outside the body.
[00:22:55] And the stars and the water and the air. So just that simple, like one minute playing, playing with shifting awareness while rooting in the body shifts everything actually.
[00:23:09] Tianna: It really does. And I love how simple and. how quick it can be because I think there's a lot of practices that people, or even myself, sometimes there's like certain meditative practices and I'm like, Oh, I really want, Oh, I don't have time to do that today.
[00:23:25] And then you don't do it, but to have something. things that bring you back, especially the times that we're in now, which are speeding up, and a lot of things are coming in that we've never, you talked about a new experience. I think we're all going to have a lot of new experiences on the planet because of the way that, the Aquarian energy is coming in and innovation and things are speeding up.
[00:23:50] And so. Yeah. And we need to have this way to come back to ourself and stay there.
[00:23:57] Helen: Yeah. And I'm a certified embodied meditation teacher and that was useful in my journey. And that particular stance is like, it's wonderful for embodiment. There's lots of somatic embodiment practice which are wonderful.
[00:24:10] And in my work, I'm always in the stance of including awareness. There's great value in connecting with the breath, relaxing the body, contacting the body. Along the lines of yoga, for instance, yoga is more about the union of spirit and body. So just a simple practice of bringing awareness to the breath and to the body and to awareness.
[00:24:35] And exploring the relationship between them and going beyond thought. And there's always a beyond. So we're including whatever is in our experience. Sensation, racing thoughts, pain, whatever it might be. We're including it. We're not pushing it away. We're not resisting it. And what else is here? And so this is about wholeness that includes everything.
[00:25:05] Every aspect of the human experience. Full spectrum. Not only the bright shiny stuff and not just like, Getting caught in the dark or the shadow, like all of it. And we are not our thoughts and we are not our body and at the same time not disembodied, not disconnecting from how it is to be experiencing this self as consciousness in this moment through a body.
[00:25:32] And this kind of rooting, I feel more and more is. Just so, so important, as you say, for the increasing upheavals that we're facing. And you know, I've spoken about this recently with some of the things that have been happening. It's like, there's a quote going around, I've no idea if it's accurate or not, it's attributed to Ram Dass and it's along the lines of, “whether we think this is the apocalypse or the first day of the golden age, our practice remains the same.
[00:26:03] Loving kindness, compassion, awareness.” So not to get caught up in any narratives, whether they're personal ones, or whether they're ones that are being generated in social media, or whatever it might be. But not bypass. too. This is the thing- in the world, but not of it. This is mastery, the way that I see it.
[00:26:24] It's a lifelong, exploration and dance of what it is to be true, authentic, honest, alive in this moment. And you asked about spiritual journey. Earlier on, more and more, I use less and less language around spiritual, I try and use less and less language that is like spiritually oriented.
[00:26:46] And really part of my message is really about aliveness and wholeness. And it's a wholeness that does encompass our multidimensionality, but it's not focusing on that. I'm not all about our Pleiadian selves or galactic self, but all of that can be in the mix. So there's a wholeness. That for me is such a fundamental part of what it is for me to be happy and fulfilled as a human being.
[00:27:13] I'm not a human being. I'm a being experiencing humanity and I am multidimensional and we all are just in different degrees. Again, we have different like lineages and different. setups that we choose to come into this lifetime with. So, I use words like wholeness and aliveness and authenticity as being fundamental that speak to, well, all of us at some level, right?
[00:27:40] Like who doesn't want to be more alive and fulfilled and living authentically, whatever that looks like for each one of us.
[00:27:49] Tianna: So who are the people that are typically coming to work with you? Is there a particular subset of the population or people that are have a particular focus or need or desire that come to you?
[00:28:03] Helen: Yeah, it is women, primarily, and I've worked on my own thoughts around that. And again, that's a whole conversation about why it's women and why women have a particular role. In many ways at the forefront of some of what's happening and, often women who have some degree of recognition of multidimensionality, again, whatever that looks like.
[00:28:27] Some of my people are very mature, experienced kind of explorers, shall we say, And there's a whole spectrum within that in terms of people, people's lives look like, and really there's a recognition, of the frequencies and core frequencies and the core values that come through my work.
[00:28:46] And one of the foundations that I offer is. community as regular group meditations, both through my own community and then on platforms like Insight Timer or elsewhere. And there's just, I'm blown away time and time again, like that people come from all over the world, particularly on other platforms where they don't necessarily know me as a teacher or as a guide and just come along to meditation.
[00:29:10] And so people from all over the world from all different backgrounds, some are like brand new, some are deeply experienced and they find recognition in the direct experience of the frequency and in the wisdom of some of the words, the words are pointers. They're not the point.
[00:29:29] And really there's a frequency recognition in whatever way people recognize that provides support and comfort and healing and transformation. I work with people across the broad spectrum. Those that most consciously get most benefit are those that are maybe a little bit ways down the road, not because I'm doing anything technical or complicated, just because they have more awareness of what's actually on offer.
[00:29:53] That maybe sounds arrogant. I hope it, I always doesn't, but No, it doesn't. It's, it's like I offer a broad spectrum and people can mm-hmm . tap in. Somebody might tap in and be like, yeah, I feel more relaxed. I feel calmer. Wonderful. Somebody else can have this like whole incredible experience and so I've learned particularly over recent years that that's part of my remit, and it's great.
[00:30:18] It's all good. I don't need people to be getting everything that I offer and consciously it's like meeting everybody where there are and keeping it simple, keeping as well. So I tend, in the meditations, I often say I don't provide this detailed commentary of what's happening because it's kind of none of my business I help set it up with everyone else And everybody will have their own version.
[00:30:43] So it's not like i'm not guiding like now you will experience da da da I respect everybody's sovereignty and make things available And I love that. And I trust it. I trust the wisdom of the fields that are created deeply.
[00:30:55] Tianna: The way you were describing your meditation reminds me so much of the way that my experience is, sharing Reiki with people.
[00:31:02] And it's something similar. That yeah, people will receive whatever they're open to receive at whatever level, and somebody like you said, might get deep relaxation. Somebody else might get spiritual activation and it's all good. It show up the same way to offer this energy and different people will receive different frequencies of it, whatever
[00:31:27] is right for them. Yeah.
[00:31:30] Helen: And this is a really important point and just want to pick up on that. It's like the outcome is none of our business. It's like healing is an inside job. Healing is like, people often ask me, “how did you heal from being so sick” and dah, dah, dah, dah.
[00:31:43] And, “can you heal me?” It's the same thing. It's like having respect for where somebody is. My teacher, used to say let people be exactly where they are, including herself. And we were talking earlier about values, so much of our culture and the particular, the commercial culture is founded on work with me and get X, Y, Z.
[00:32:05] That is just not my orientation. And I feel more and more of us are like, no, I'm not going to limit what's here to that, to like actually be in the mystery. It's also reclaiming the mystery and it's arrogance or delusion just to say, well, like, yeah, this is going to happen like so.
[00:32:24] Mm-hmm . Like, I try and show up and get out of the way, you know? Mm-hmm . Yeah. At the same time, Uhhuh, you know, and that's an invitation for many of us. And it's a continuing practice, you know? 'cause our ego and our minds wants to do it all. But things that I like to do mm-hmm
[00:32:39] Can we show up, make ourselves available for the mystery and be in this alive field and particularly with large groups the variables are so much more. And the potential, the potentiality is so much more if it's set up and held properly. A quick story, like 2013 or 2014, maybe 2014.
[00:33:03] Myself and some other soul family were guided to hold global meditations on like 3. 3, right through the year. And at that point we would get, because social media was set up differently, we would get thousands. We would have thousands of people in that field and it would be a 24 hour field. We would hold it for 24 hours and it was just incredible what was possible.
[00:33:27] And there's so much evidence out there about large scale meditation and the power of it. And we're seeing some of it just now with the fires and people coming together in terms of. Intentional consciousness. I feel, Oh, I'm getting chills. That's always my body, like giving me my validation.
[00:33:43] I was about to say, I feel that we are on the brink of a whole new level of this. Or more and more people waking up to the power of our own consciousness as we come together. And this in itself is an antidote to the hyper individualism of capitalism and modern western society. So, it's the first time I've actually said this out loud, this is going to be a really interesting year, to put it mildly, , that's been coming through for me, like for months last year, I get my own intuition, and then things like astrology or whatever will come along and validate it, but it's always an internal intuition.
[00:34:23] And I was hearing and knowing very strongly that it was going to be much, much more pivotal, turbulent and transformative than what took place in 2020 and since then, and in the first like two weeks of the year. That's certainly proven to be the case. And again, nobody can predict. We can predict themes and influences and look at how we navigate, but the specifics, they're not set.
[00:34:50] How do we respond? How do we respond individually and collectively and in tapping into the power of our consciousness? It's going to be exciting and it's really essential that we take care of ourself. I spoke about this a lot in the last meditation I did with my community about being really truthful with ourself about where we are, our capacity in any one moment, like not overreaching through some misguided sense of service where actually we're not going to be of service to anyone.
[00:35:20] So the times where it really is about tending to our nervous system, for example, or our physical body. And other times where we have more bandwidth and capacity to really be in service energetically, spiritually, and practically.
[00:35:34] Tianna: You used the archetype earlier of the wounded healer. And that also was thinking about the martyred healer archetype.
[00:35:42] And that's one that I know I have worked on within myself and I see a lot of my clients where, we're trying to help others to our own detriment and that's. It's needing to be healed and transformed on the planet right now.
[00:35:57] Helen: Yeah. I feel it is. I mean, it's got strands in spirituality. It's got strands in a lot of religions, right?
[00:36:03] I came through the Catholic teaching, so big, big one in my life story as well. And as a female bodied being as well, so many women carry strands of this. So I feel it's changing. And you're right, to bring it to awareness. Awareness is key for change. And then our dedication to catching when more parts show up and we're going to get plenty of practice cause there's plenty of material that we can pour our energy into that may not necessarily be wisdom at all.
[00:36:38] It just actually a distraction or a delusion.
[00:36:40] Tianna: Yeah, and I would love to hear about it sounds like maybe this next book that you're writing tied into some of these themes that we've been discussing.
[00:36:50] Helen: For sure. Yeah. It's A journey in mothering and my life stories as one at one level of it and it's exploring mothering across many levels.
[00:37:02] So in our cultures and society, metaphysically, spiritually, cosmically. It's playing with all of these levels as I share some of the stories of how my own being is experiencing mothering and I'm smiling as you're saying I'm writing because it's been on like extended pause. A while ago, yeah, I was told that there was more important chapters that needed to be lived before I could come complete it.
[00:37:26] And that's exactly what's happened. and that's part of why I feel I've been called here to Mexico. I'm in Mexico right now. This area has a lot of significance for my soul and I haven't been to this particular place before is to work on the book. So this is the one that I've known for most of my adult life that I needed to write, , right from the get go when I had my daughter and would share my stories and people were reflecting to me that
[00:37:53] I needed to share my story. It's bigger than the personal. And then there's been much, much more since then. But it's not just a memoir, my personal stories. And it's been really interesting as I've been working on it to just keep playing through these different levels of cultural themes and sociological themes and metaphysical and spiritual and cosmic.
[00:38:17] So. Watch this space. I'm not going to make predictions about when it will be complete. It will be complete when it's meant to be complete. I'm just happy that it's underway. And my first book coming home was a gateway, cause I started working on this original book decades ago and would dip in and out over different periods of time.
[00:38:37] And then my inner guidance was to start writing short form writing. 10 years, I was told to make that into a book and that process paved the way for this original book. So, yeah, I'm excited to dive into it more. And again, it's alive, right? So it's a completely different book than it would have been.
[00:38:59] decades ago. And it's reflective of what's shifting in our culture around feminine, around feminism, around mothering, around our relationship to the mother at all levels, culturally and collectively. And I'm hoping it's not going to end up being really, really too long, but we'll see how it transpires.
[00:39:20] Tianna: Earlier, you said a comment about… I can't remember how you worded it- like part of what you're here for is, I don't think you said rewiring, but I feel like you said something like rewiring motherhood or something that made me think you have some new perspective as far as maybe the way that motherhood has been viewed or practiced or experienced and is maybe evolving in the times that we're in now.
[00:39:44] Helen: Yeah. I think probably. What I said is part of my function is around rewriting paradigms around mothering. I use the word mothering deliberately because it's much broader than motherhood. It is a relationship with mother with a capital M, the great mother, the earth mother, the cosmic mother, and right down through our lineages as well.
[00:40:08] my particular journeys. I mean, we've all got amazing stories. I'm not trying to make any kind of story of specialness. Just, to your question at the beginning, like I 100 percent know that the circumstances of my life are exactly the way they're meant to be and each of these beings and their circumstances are.
[00:40:27] Exactly the way they're meant to be. And it's been a very, very challenging path. It's been a very, very lonely path. I've been a single parent for 12 years. It's been a lonely path because as I'm sure you know, as we break through paradigms, as we come up against consensus reality, we can meet a lot of backlash, right?
[00:40:48] A lot of judgment, a lot of rejection and isolation from our peers. And I've been experiencing that through my whole adult life in different ways because of the nature of my journeys with each of my children and our agreed soul journeys. So, yeah, our lives are deeply personal and they're not, and we are one consciousness.
[00:41:12] We are one consciousness, taking form through billions of beings, exploring themes, exploring evolution. My wiring is evolutionary, so I'm here for the new and that's part of why it's been so hard for me, particularly in my early life, to be in the planet because there was nothing to attach on to that felt resonant or recognized.
[00:41:36] And it's only literally only in the last couple of months I had a reading that involved human design Gene Keys and all sorts of stuff that confirmed that. I won't embarrass myself by getting it wrong by trying to explain it technically, but like the key themes for me are all in the future.
[00:41:53] They're literally not here yet. And that's why it was so hard for me to be here. So it's evolutionary work that happens to this present moment. And it is about shifting our consciousness and shifting how we live to get into the point of embodiment. It's not about being an ascetic or being a mystic in a monastery, it's mystic in the marketplace, mystic in the family, right?
[00:42:18] Like what, to my mind, it's one of the most potent and challenging context to wake up and explore spirituality is in the family, as a householder, as a parent. Fathers and mothers, they just have different flavours, right? So the nature of that is at the heart of this evolutionary work and it's relevant to everyone.
[00:42:44] These themes of mothering, it's not just for women, it's not for mothers or non mothers, it's the mother and mothering. And we all have these internal and external dynamics in our system around us that are changing.
[00:42:59] Tianna: Yeah, I was thinking as you mentioned, that you have special needs kids and certainly on the planet that has increased tremendously, and do you feel that that's sort of intentional?
[00:43:13] Like is that part of our evolutionary, journey? through having those experiences with special needs kids or being embodied as special needs, is that somehow part of our evolution? It's taking us somewhere spiritually. Yeah,
[00:43:29] Helen: I would be loath to give an answer to that.
[00:43:31] I think it would be really unwise. It could also be too simplistic. I think there's a lot of factors involved around like the exponential rise in certain conditions. What I would do is place it in a context of divine intelligence, that everything is an emanation of divine intelligence, whatever it looks like.
[00:43:51] Right. So whatever humanity is choosing to do or be, how we're choosing to behave and global warming and all the different things adventures that are playing out ultimately is all part of divine intelligence. So it circles back to what we mentioned earlier about being with what is, I'm just, I'm wary of.
[00:44:12] Conclusions, around things like this. It traps us in another belief system. This is this or this is that. This is good or this is bad. And who can say? I mean, it's like the nature of reality, the nature of life and death. We can speak from our best experience, but ultimately it's a direct discovery.
[00:44:32] And until we leave the body and, come back with full awareness we can't speak with definitive authority. So I have thoughts, but I would be wary to make some kind of declaration about that. I think it would be quite insensitive to many beings, including some of my own children.
[00:44:50] Tianna: I love that your approach is, I don't want to say, simple is not a bad word. I think your approach comes back to a few, simple core things. But to me, like, going back to Reiki. When I learned Reiki, and then I was like, okay, cool. Now what's the next even better thing, you know?
[00:45:08] And I think that that's such a Western mind perspective like, oh, the more complicated is, the better it is. And then over the years, I kept coming back to Reiki and really valuing its simplicity because it's so pure, powerful, and there's less distortion when it's so simple. And it's so comforting and grounding to be in the simplicity.
[00:45:34] So I love your energy very much feels like that- it's very comforting and grounding and just very present. And your answers are similar, they weave us back just to Be in the now, be in our hearts. Accepting what is and I think that's so refreshing because usually there's a a lot of different things going on that are interesting or fun to explore, but like you said, they can kind of take us out of this moment
[00:46:02] and so thank you for that.
[00:46:04] Helen: Well, thank you for that reflection. I appreciate it. And I want to say like two things. One, that the core truths are profoundly simple. They're profoundly simple and we all know them, right? It's just, we forget. And we make it way more complicated than it needs to be. And simple doesn't mean easy, as you well know, right?
[00:46:27] So, and that's the essence of it. And because things are not easy, often we will look for all of these complications. And the other comment I wanted to make as a side note is it still makes me smile when I receive this reflection, which I do sometimes. Because of the phase that I went through for quite some time in my own journey of being very galactic and multidimensional and it's not that I made things super complicated.
[00:46:53] It was just different. I was just in a different phase of my process and, integrating all of that. And then it comes back to, how do we live? It comes back to how do we live? And there are all sorts of reasons why we want to run away from that, or parts of us might want to run away from that 'cause it can be painful.
[00:47:10] Mm-hmm . And challenging and scary to our egos and our minds. And whether we call ourselves spiritual or not, how do we live? What are we doing with this one precious life? How are we showing up every day? How are we speaking to the people that we meet in the store? All of these simple, simple things.
[00:47:30] And I was blessed. It's funny, I find I'm speaking about my teacher more than ever since he passed. And he wouldn't call himself a teacher. But I was very blessed to have an incredible teacher. That's very much his stance. It's like, “you do your day, you wake up, you do your day. How are you doing your day?”
[00:47:46] Simple, simple, simple. Even as we're bringing in all kinds of assistance, support, frequencies, like my role is essentially at a frequency level to bring in a particular field and then to help spread that as much as possible. And yet, what does that mean? It means how are we experiencing ourself as something more than a personality and how are we living as something bigger than a personality and bigger than our ego, including all of it, including all of our quirks and our character and like that's what makes us unique, right?
[00:48:22] And then how we show up, how we're living our life.
[00:48:25] Tianna: Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for sharing your energy for sharing your experiences and your insights. Do you have any events coming up that our listeners might want to know about?
[00:48:38] Helen: Well, first of all, thank you for the opportunity. It's been such a joy, such joy.
[00:48:44] Yeah, I regularly have live meditations. I have one coming up this weekend, typically most weeks. Details are on my website, which is Helenquail. com. I have an in person event in Tucson on the 222. All my events are always by guidance, so I'm always told. And I'm going to be holding an event in the Austin area around Spring Equinox.
[00:49:05] And then I'm planning quite a few more live events. I step back from in person events. 2020 onwards and I'm really being called to offer more and really to go where there's a calling. So there's been interest in some other places. I did a trip to Scotland in the UK last year called Homecoming and it was really a pilgrimage and it was fantastic.
[00:49:27] I did events there. So I'm open. to invitations and other places for the moment, Tucson and Texas. The two T's are my ones as a lot as well as my regular live meditations.
[00:49:39] Tianna: Great. Well, we'll have a link to your website and to maybe your insight timer and your book. And that's how other people can find you.
[00:49:48] Thank you so much for sharing your time with us today.
[00:49:52] Helen: Likewise, Tianna. Thank you for your time and energy.