Astrologers Russ Von Ohlhausen & Shannon Lei Gill
Welcome to another transformative 🦋 season of Beyond the Illusion! In this highly anticipated episode, we reconnect with our favorite astrologers, Shannon & Russ, to delve into the celestial themes shaping 2025. Shannon & Russ share their insights on the four outer planets shifting signs, heralding profound widespread changes. From the amplified lightwork ✨needed in these turbulent times to the awakening energies of the Uranus transit into Gemini, this episode offers a cosmic roadmap for navigating this year's paradigm shifts. Tune in to prepare for the quantum leaps 🚀 ahead!
Highlights:
What makes 2025 a pivotal 9️⃣ year in numerology, and how does it symbolize completion and transformation?
The massive impact of four outer planets changing signs in 2025—how does this shift signal collective and personal evolution?
Astrology as a sacred map: How can understanding celestial cycles provide clarity, guidance, and empowerment during these chaotic times?
Shannon’s transformational theme of "amplification" in 2025—why it's more important than ever to amplify the light during dark times.
What lessons can we learn from the Uranus transit into Gemini ♊️, and how does it catalyze revolutionary thought and awakening?
How the nodal axis shift into Pisces ♓️ and Virgo ♍️ highlights the integration of matter and spirit in 2025.
What can Neptune's move into Aries ♈️ teach us about the connection between historical patterns and spiritual evolution?
How can you prepare for the game-changing energies of 2025, from detoxification to spiritual embodiment?
How will Pluto in Aquarius ♒️ influence collective empowerment and technological advances to reshape humanity's future?
What role do lightworkers play in anchoring higher frequencies during this era of rapid change and awakening?
SHANNON GILL is a recognized national & international level astrologer. She has been invited to speak & teach around the world. A mother of two, full-time astrologer & healing facilitator, she is dedicated to astrology as the core of her life’s purpose. For astrological readings and courses, go to Shannonleigill.com Check out Shannon’s Youtube channel.
RUSS VON OHLHAUSEN is a research astrologer & consciousness catalyzer. His work echoes a synthesis of spiritual & material observance commingled with science, religion, myth, metaphysics & most importantly–nature. Visit mindfrontiers.net
SHANNON & RUSS’ Shift Foundation is a Texas non-profit, focused on facilitating the health, cohesion, and positive evolution of humanity. Find upcoming events: theshiftfoundation.org
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. She helps Lightworkers step into their Soul Destiny. 💖 Her book “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self” is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
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TRANSCRIPT
Tianna: Welcome back. I'm always so excited to talk to you guys about astrology. And of course, I haven't done a podcast episode for quite a while now, and haven't talked to you guys about astrology for quite a while. And I know, just from what I've been reading and watching that there's so much going on this year astrologically.
Tianna: But before we get into it, I really want to put a plug in. I mean, of course, we're going to put a plug in for you guys, because you're so amazing and wonderful. I want to put a plug in for astrology. In general, I was, reflecting about like, wow, I've known Shannon for a decade now, and really it was like meeting you and becoming friends with you started to really immerse me into astrology, because you see the world through the lens of astrology, your vocabulary is really peppered with astrology. And I found that I'm at a point now where that's the lens that I see the world through so much. And it's so helpful. I was just thinking like, anybody who doesn't believe in astrology hasn't really delved into it.
Tianna: Because the more that I've spent looking at transits and archetypes and then applying it to my own life and themes and lessons and also what's happening in the world. It's like, how can you not make the connection? How can you not see that? It's so thrilling that astrology, which is of course, not the only system. There's other systems. That do something similar, but it's like finding that key. If I were looking at a map and trying to figure out, how to find something, and then you find the legend at the bottom, you're like, Oh, that's what that symbol means. And that's astrology.
Tianna: Once you delve more into it and apply it to your life, you see the bigger picture of the interconnectedness of all things and that we can understand ourselves in the world so much better, through learning astrology. So that's my plug for astrology. For people who are new to it, I know you guys, teach classes and you have events and Shannon, I know you do mentorship and we'll talk about that more towards the end as well.
Tianna: But there are so many resources and I would just tell people not to feel overwhelmed because like I said, it's been 10 years for myself, But I just slowly had to, delve into a piece of it. Because the more you delve into it, the more there is. So just give yourself space with it. I think any piece of it, if you're willing to explore and experiment with it and apply it to your life, I just can't see how somebody wouldn't find it useful.
[00:02:46] Shannon: It is sort of like a light bulb that goes off, at some point, and I really wish that everybody felt the way that you do. And I appreciate that feedback very much, because I do feel like sometimes I'm annoying people, because I'm also speaking astrology to people that don't want to hear it or don't really care. So that's always an interesting moment whenever I can kind of sense the field of either a reaction based on some cultural programming, possibly, that is very still dominant and coming very specifically through Christianity, or an intrigue, but a confusion, and so it's fascinating.
Shannon: And just to echo what you were saying, I would encourage people. And I like to share this whenever I sit with people coming for the first time for a reading that you don't have to be an astrologer. All you have to do is be curious and that astrology can greatly empower your life because this is our sacred map that in the mysterious way we have left for ourselves. And so as we're sort of these Courageous voyagers into this, radical time of shifting between these eons. If we have a map, we might as well use it.
[00:03:57] Tianna: Yeah. I love it. I get so excited when the dots connect it's like when you're looking at that, artwork where it's all a bunch of dots and you're trying to relax your eyes and let the picture come in focus. I love that ha moment where suddenly the picture comes in focus and all the dots make sense. Yeah, I get that a lot with astrology.
[00:04:14] Shannon: Oh, yeah. I mean, I've been in this realm for decades, if not lifetimes and still blown away. I mean, we have the sort of inside joke is like, you can't make this stuff up and Russell likes to speak to it's all math. And so this is the secret language of the universe that actually quantifies and validates pretty much every aspect of reality.
[00:04:35] Russ: Yeah, for me, astrology is a fundamental part of nature, you know, we have different dialects, but the phonetics, are the foundations, of sound and everything is, vibration based.
Russ: Energy and frequency. So when you look at things that way, you step outside of the material realm, which unfortunately, our society is hyper focused on right now. You can begin to see things as energy, frequency, vibration, and astrology is a phonetic representation and a symbolic representation of that, just like gene keys or human design, any of these other systems or, the Enneagram, they're all trying to classify and archetype psychological energy, based on planetary movements.
[00:05:18] And this is the fundamental backbone actually of all religious texts as well. They're tracking the movements of the heavens and how it affects cycles of human nature and people. And, Where we're going from here,
[00:05:30] Tianna: especially in the times that we're in where things are shifting really quickly, and it's very unpredictable. And that's brings up fear for a lot of people. It's nice to have some structure. There is some sort of intelligence or structure in the universe. That you can see through these cycles, that astrology is showing us. So I feel like it's one of the tools that people could utilize, to not feel overwhelmed or fearful in the times that we're in.
[00:06:03] Shannon: Absolutely. Because it shows us that there's a divine orchestration, that there is a sequence that basically astrology is a history of patterns. And. So for example, if we're going through a really heavy time, if we're going through a really intense time, the powerful thing about astrology is that not only can it Help us to demystify what the transformational process is asking of us, but it also is a timeline so it can let us know when it's going to be complete.
[00:06:37] It'll be like, okay, you're going to be going through this. It's going to be really intense. Here's what you're being asked. This is part of your evolutionary journey. This is the area of your life. And by the spring, you're going to be. The phoenix flying from the ashes. So it helps us in so many different ways, but to not feel like, Oh my gosh, I thought I was already over with this.
[00:06:59] Or is this ever going to end? Is there something wrong with me? It's like, no, life is a continual seasonal change, just like nature that we are constantly evolving through these cycles of, death and rebirth, just like the snake and that sometimes we're at the top of the wave and other times the wave is crashing, but we're always spiraling upwards.
[00:07:20] And so, yeah, I think that's a good point as we're at this just colossal moment in history, where like you say, it's so radical, the evolution is just accelerated beyond belief. We can trust this. We can lean into this when you know how to decipher the codes when you know how to read archetype when you understand that all of this has been written in history preparing us for this time. And so we can lean into that. And like you say, it can give us some trust that we're exactly where we need to be
[00:07:53] Tianna: beautiful. Well, I know that there's a lot of ground to cover for this year. And I guess it's nice to start off kind of with the bird's eye view of just looking at this year as a whole, as far as maybe key themes that you see.
[00:08:13] Shannon: Yeah. And I feel like, maybe we're just going to travel through the first half of the year in the show. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. We need you to come back on mid year. I know. Well, it is, like you say, it's a lot, we're sort of reaching this maximum speed as far as maybe even what we we think that we can metabolize in a lot of ways.
[00:08:32] So, 2025, right? Just even starting there. It's a nine year, in numerology. And we do always sort of start, with an overarching theme. And I was remembering back the last couple of years with you, I remember that 2023, my theme was initiation. I remember that. We were being initiated into the unknown, right?
Very existential. It's kind of like, we're still there in a lot of ways, but we're kind of used to expect the unexpected, right? We're sort of like, wow, what next? You know? And then last year was, Activation, right? With the big Aries eclipse, like, wow, that huge, portal that we all survived.
And then for me this year, and I know Russell probably has his own version. I think for me it is amplification. And that actually just came to me today, whenever I think about sort of the synthesizing of all the elements that, especially, what we're experiencing right now, even today, these terrifying, tragic fires going on in California, right?
Very apocalyptic. It's even seeing just the imagery with the Hollywood sign up in flames. I feel like, and of course, all of this is part of the prophecy, right? This is part of this alchemical transformation that we are going through as a humanity. So amplification for me means it is high time for us to amplify The light quotient that through these darker periods, think you've probably heard me talk about how it's this birth canal experience and it's like Braxton Hicks and are we ever going to birth this baby, right?
But we have to step back. Like you say that bird's eye view and say, wow, We're birthing an age that's 2, 000 years long, and we're midwifing one to its death that's 2, 000 years long. So this process of transition is worthy of some spaciousness, right? And so it feels to me like as we sort of downshift into this , the actual going through the portal, which is reflected by the fact that we have four planets, outer planets changing signs. they're going to be going from that anorectic degree of Pisces, which is the end, the death degree into Aries. And so this feels like, I think maybe this is really it. We're really going to birth this baby. And so birth is, it's dark, it's bloody, it's painful. And through the darker times, we really need to amplify the light.
[00:10:55] Russ: Yeah. And as far as the overall theme for the year, I have been thinking about this , and for me, I said this recently, it's like a year of uncoupling and this is the year you finally uncouple the train cars that are behind you that are dead weight. The locomotives have to take off and down the tracks. Everything is picking up speed and it's going to be moving faster. A lot of these shifts are into air signs, as we know. I'm just going to read this real quick, just so you understand. The majority , of the major shifts happening with the outer planets.
[00:11:27] this is one major pivotal year. I'm a big picture person. I like the 30,000 foot view of everything. And we have Pluto entering Aquarius at the end of last year permanently. And it'll stay there for the next approximately 20 years. We have Neptune entering Aries. We have Uranus entering Gemini, another air sign, and this, occurs in July.
[00:11:48] We have Jupiter, entering Cancer, as well. So, all of the outer planets are making major shifts, and I feel like this year it's the time we are picking up pace. We are moving. from the ground into the air. You have to let go of your talons and, , uncouple from the ground so you can take flight.
[00:12:08] This is the phoenix here in some ways. It is the Chinese year of the snake, but this is the reflection that I see is we all have to sprout wings and become that Quetzalcoatl serpent. This year so that we can fly.
[00:12:19] Shannon: Yeah. I love the visualization is like these four outer planets changing signs.
[00:12:24] So that's a big deal. The outer planets are the trans personal planets. That means that they affect the collective. Where's the personal planets affect us more personally, right? To have four of them shifting the collective, just in that you see wow, this is paradigm shifting. And when they shift and they change signs, they actually make a different, a new sacred geometry in the cosmos.
[00:12:48] And we're going to go through them one by one. But one of the things too, I feel like, trust is that Pluto, like Russell said, the backdrop in Aquarius and, Uranus that is moving into Gemini and, Neptune and Saturn moving to Aries are making a grand trine in the sky.
[00:13:10] And
[00:13:10] Shannon: so that is a flowing energy. And that's something that's going to really help us, I think, to shift this collective and to take this quantum leap as we're, like Russell said, it's a snake year, and so That symbol is saying, we have outgrown something. We have outgrown. We are ready to be reborn.
[00:13:28] And so this is that era where we're going to have to let go of what's dead, what's dying, what is decaying, the toxic. You see like the fire, the flames, like everything coming to the surface. for this time of rapid rejuvenation. And, we're moving towards something. And, Russell and I've been getting really interested and curious about 2027, which feels like the next maybe major marker, which in the gene key system, Richard Rudd talks a lot about this, that this is the year of, , a gene mutation, where we're going to evolve, , from homo sapiens to homo luminous.
[00:14:06] So we'll talk more about that as well. But I thought I just wanted to name that.
[00:14:10] Tianna: Yeah, when we talk about the snake shedding the skin, I never thought about but I wonder like, Oh, is that painful for the snake? Or does that feel like a relief to release that skin? And I guess maybe a little bit of both, thinking about times, , when I've let something go, , there's Both of
[00:14:28] Shannon: those feelings.
[00:14:30] And I love that you asked that question because back in the fall in Scorpio season, , writing, my usual blog, I decided to dig a little deeper into that process. It's called ecstasis. Whenever the snake sheds the skin, that it becomes dead and it becomes brittle and it becomes dry and the snake intuitively rubs up against something that like a rock or something sharp or a tree that slits that slices or tears the skin that initiates the release.
[00:15:01] I was so blown away by that, because if you think about that metaphorically, this is our higher self creating these dramas in our life, creating these painful things that force us to evolve, that help us to mobilize. That's why Russell and I always talk about. trusting the contrasting force, trusting the darkness, it's that enantiodromia, that polarizing intensity, that loss, that heartbreak, that trauma, that shocks consciousness into the death portal.
[00:15:30] Into that underworld experience of surrender, which like Rumi always says, that's where the light comes in and then the rebirth. And the thing is with the snake after the snake sheds its skin or in the Scorpio archetype, which it rules, then becomes the Phoenix. And so then we get to glide higher above in a higher level of awareness than we had before because we've released what was holding us down in the dross.
[00:15:54] Tianna: That's so beautiful and just a good thing to keep in mind , as we meet some challenges or disappointments or whatever that might show up in our life this year. We can think of that metaphor and think of ourself as a snake going through that process, I think will be helpful. Thank you.
[00:16:12] Shannon: Yeah. And another thing about the snake is that we know it's about healing, but it also is the Kundalini energy.
[00:16:18] And
[00:16:19] Shannon: so in that process, we also have access to the rise to the ascension process of our central channel and of, evolving into higher levels of vibration and frequency. And we know that Also with the big nodal shift, which we'll get to as well, Pisces North node, , we're going to see a lot of people's spiritual channels really becoming online, really being refined.
[00:16:42] , this veil between the worlds is becoming thinner and thinner, and we're going to see more and more people coming online with their spiritual gifts. That's exciting.
[00:16:51] Tianna: I don't know. I just had this idea is Uranus connected at all to Kundalini because it feels like the energy matches in my mind, but I don't know if I just came up with that.
[00:17:02] Russ: Well, I think you're right if you want to think of it this way, Uranus is the energy of Kundalini itself. It is that lightning force that you're trying to cultivate. And the tantric forces, it's what flows through the channels , in my personal opinion, I don't know, since Uranus is considered a , newer planet, its earmarks can be seen throughout mythology and its understandings are well rooted long before it was discovered, but\ , if you think of it in terms of just pure Electricity, it is part of the electrical system of the body and the more that we're exposed to that and channel that energy, , the more we'll fire up , our system.
[00:17:39] Well, all the chakras will spin again and we'll actually be activating our pineal gland faster and much more efficiently. So,
[00:17:47] Shannon: and I mean, it's actually literally, connected and astrologically because back in. 2018 Uranus moved into Taurus. Taurus is the body, Taurus is the earth, Uranus is that higher electromagnetic like, the lightning bolt energy coming on the activating energy, coming literally through the body.
[00:18:07] So more and more people started having Kundalini waking, spiritual wakings, it accelerated all of that. Also bringing all these higher technologies onto the earth itself. And then, , another one of the outer planet shifts, which we'll go into more deeply is Uranus. Then this year we'll move into Gemini, Gemini is our mind.
[00:18:25] And so we're going to have that, , activating energy coming online with our consciousness.
[00:18:31] Tianna: I feel really excited about all of these shifts. I'm sure when I'm going through it I'm going to be crying through some of it, but it's really exciting, to think about all of these activations and more people opening up to spirituality.
[00:18:45] , and so I think, , the things that we've gone through, because it's been fairly intense just the last few years, I think, , just like it's up to us, right? How we choose to look at it. And I'm choosing to get excited.
[00:19:00] Shannon: Right. And I think that's just another valid point is that there is this sort of bifurcation going on where different people are going to be having different experiences of the same time space reality.
[00:19:12] Although maybe we're living in different dimensional states, but , occupying the same, environment. And this is just another part of this wild time , It's showing up in ways that , we've read about and we've thought about, we talked about for decades, but it's like really profound that it's actually here and that we're actually having these experiences.
[00:19:31] And so, , this is this parallel reality that a lot of us are really committed to anchoring,, and many people call it the new earth. Basically just anchoring in these frequencies, which is just a returning to original earth template, Actually, while the old programs and the toxicity that's deeply embedded in human psyche is going to just kind of slowly go into a demise over years of generations of new humans being born.
[00:19:58] Russ: Oh, one thing you said, I just want to, this quote, kind of echoes some of this, , there's an author, William Gibson, , he made a statement, the future is already here. But it will not be evenly distributed. So think about it. People around you won't be experiencing the future the way that you may feel it.
[00:20:15] It's the dimensional aspects arriving, , at different points in our culture and where your mindset is ready. And it's happening faster and faster. , some people, many people, many organizations, many structures will be left behind and shed away like the snake. But the future , is already, we're already stepping into it so fast, , I feel like some people are having a much more quantum reality experience right now than we are, but we're still probably near the cutting edge just to be able to have these levels of conversations and talk about what's happening in the real realities.
[00:20:48] Tianna: Yeah, I feel very privileged, , that , we get to work with all of these really beautiful souls that are on a spiritual path. And so we get to see that these shifts are happening. And then , I'm sure you probably have the similar experience where I'll have clients come in.
[00:21:01] And not in their reality, like everyone in their reality, , thinks they're crazy. And , I forget like, Oh, wow. Yeah, there's still a whole group of people that, , doesn't see any of this, that just sees everything on the surface level and thinks that the whole world is, , doomed, looking through that lens.
[00:21:20] So,
[00:21:20] Shannon: yeah, it is definitely fascinating. , to sort of just assess the collective, the diversity in the collective consciousness right now.
[00:21:28] Tianna: Well, I know you guys have a lot more to cover, wherever you want to
[00:21:31] Shannon: jump in. Sure. Well, , I think that, , we'll still be in Mars retrograde when this airs.
[00:21:36] And so I think it's worthwhile to just name that , we are starting out the new calendar year. With Mars, the planet of action, forward momentum and willpower going backwards. So it's going nowhere fast. And I'm never an advocate of off to the races at January 1st. Anyway, I feel like, , if we want to really align with the natural cycles, then, we more look towards in bulk when the seeds are starting to sort of perk and then full birth at the spring equinox.
[00:22:02] , however. This is, , a double whammy when we have Mars retrograde and so, yeah, Mars is , our warrior energy. It's about birth. It's what we initiate and it's where we manifest our passion. In retrograde, , we're questioning. That's the invitation right now. And, , it's one of the planets that only retrogrades.
[00:22:20] Once every other year. So it's 18 months. We're really familiar with Mercury retrograde. We get that three times a year, which is more about looking at how we are functioning and our communication, our technology, our thoughts, but Mars is every other year. And so it's a really important time , to take the space, So much has changed since 18 months ago.
[00:22:41] Are you really still on the road that you want to be on? , did you set out on a journey a year and a half ago? We're in a different landscape. is this really where you want to be? Maybe you need to course correct. Maybe you need to change a course. It started its retrograde in Leo. So that is a little more information.
[00:22:57] It's saying, , Leo is the heart. It's the passion. It's our creativity is where you're going really in alignment with your passion. Are you still passionate about that thing? Is that thing even still as relevant? , a lot of people really feel that we've hopped timelines big time, especially after the election.
[00:23:13] And a lot of the word that we're getting from above is that, , the battle has been won. And so a lot of us have been putting a lot of energy into a certain. Area of trying to hold the light, trying to really, educate and, , be the bridge and all these things. And not that it's completely over, but if we could relax and really know that , we've arrived, , what would we be doing?
[00:23:39] And so that's an interesting question. , it has just in the last few days retrograded back into cancer. That's a water sign that's highly sensitive. It's more internal. So it's going to be more the reflection around, , questions around home and family, there's some areas that need some attention adjustment.
[00:23:57] It's also our homeland. And so, the day after Mars went retrograde, Mars is. In shadow war, fire, we get these fires happening on the planet and, don't want to diminish to that , there's still a lot of destruction going on in the Middle East, a lot of things that maybe are not being fully portrayed on the media.
[00:24:16] And so that's something, protection of our homeland, protection of our family, also looking at any of our, just deeper emotional processes, this is a time to look at, is there another skin that can be shed, that can help us be more effective. So starting out the year like that, I think is worthwhile to give it the energy and the time.
[00:24:37] To understand if we need to make any adjustments and then February 23rd, it will resume its forward momentum. So that seems like a significant point to make. This is
[00:24:48] Tianna: A perfect example of how useful astrology is because I am the type of person that when January 1st comes, I'm Thinking about the year and wanting to plan and structure and I've learned it because I don't remember if it was last year or two years ago, but started the years off with a mercury retrograde.
[00:25:07] , and part of me was just trying to push forward and whatever I tried to do. create, it wasn't working out. And so I've learned, and then I got your email and it was reminding, I was like, I really needed to hear that because, yeah, part of me just intrinsically wants to jump in and move ahead to be more in sync with.
[00:25:27] the universe and the cosmos and the energies , and to let it be okay. It's almost like getting cosmic permission to just take a pause and not jump in because It's counterproductive anyway. If I try to push something and it's not in the energies, I'm just going to have to shift anyway.
[00:25:48] It's so helpful. I think back to our ancestors who were so in touch with the earth and the cycles and, , we would go to bed when it got dark and would wake up when the sun, , and it makes so much sense and we think of them as primitive, but actually it makes so much sense.
[00:26:04] To be aligned with the whole with the earth and with the cycles and to work with them actually is synergy doing less but having better effect. So I love that you said that.
[00:26:17] Shannon: Yeah. And actually, if you try to push the river, you're going to get very frustrated. So there's probably a lot of people are like, why the heck is nothing moving forward?
[00:26:24] , and then that creates reactivity. So the shadow of Mars, Mars is not happy going backwards. Mars wants , to be in motion and to be an action and to be effective. And so it can create internal angst and anxiety and reactivity.
[00:26:37] Russ: Yeah. So just as a reminder of what you're pushing against.
[00:26:41] From January six forward, you're kind of revisiting the same ground that you covered between September 4th and November 3rd. You're revisiting this period, retracing the same ground and, , think back what you were doing before the election, how life was then and , you're having to rethink, , And, , face again, , through the retrograde aspect of , what was happening then.
[00:27:01] So it is a recycle and one of the things I wanted to , point out is that, , our country is a cancer sign country being July 4th. So, you see Mars there and it can become hyper protective. You know, I have Mars and cancer and , it's not the greatest place for Mars to be.
[00:27:17] It's wet and soggy but when it comes to a fight for home and family, that's when the Marsian Cancer steps up. And you're looking at a return to, , that level of thinking where this is our home, , and it could, turn on us where we have to face, some level of martial law.
[00:27:33] And this is also an aspect of this, like you said, but this is where in retrograde, things may not go to plan.
[00:27:40] Tianna: And , I'm going to put a plug in also for journaling because this is another thing that's been so useful for me. I mean, it's probably just part of my nature. But I also can say that because things are moving so fast, like if you asked me what was going on with me last Thursday, I don't remember.
[00:27:56] And having my journals where I'm, processing daily, so that when like, Russell just said, Oh, this relates to this particular time, like September of last year, I don't remember. But I can go back to my journal. And that's what's been One of the amazing things for me with astrology, because , you often will talk about that.
[00:28:15] Like this relates to this time in the past, and we're working through this cycle and I'll go back to my journal. And sure enough, there'll be a very specific theme of what I was working through. And It helps connect all the dots so that I can finally maybe graduate from that theme and move on to the next one.
[00:28:35] Whereas if we didn't have those dots connected, maybe we just keep repeating that same pattern. So I love how precise it is.
[00:28:42] Shannon: Yes, and I feel like that's a great segue into this next really important shift that has to do with the longer cycles and that has to do with actually a nine and an 18 year cycle that we are revisiting.
[00:28:57] And that is that just here in a couple days, and actually it may be that this goes out afterwards, but January 11th, the transiting nodal axis will be shifting out of,, Libra Aries. and into Virgo Pisces. So the nodal axis is considered the destiny line. You have one in your birth chart. Everybody has a destiny line.
[00:29:19] And it's the line of fate. It's the line that tells us about the journey of your soul through many lifetimes. It shows us where the karma is that you're here to clean up that you've brought with you, your suitcases. And then it shows you your Dharma, which is your North Star. What is your spiritual contract?
[00:29:35] Well, we have A collective karma and a collective dharma as well. And that is represented with what's called the nodal axis. So the nodal axis takes 18 and a half years to go around the zodiac. Every year and a half, it lands in a different axis of polarity where it will be for that year and a half.
[00:29:56] And the important thing is that the nodal axis is what creates the eclipses. So everybody probably knows that Eclipse season is like where all the fireworks go off. Eclipse seasons is where the big changes happen. During Eclipse season, the higher forces come in and reshuffle the cards of our lives. The velocity, the amplification, it's sort of like a Uranus experience where it can be shocking.
[00:30:20] It's where the evolutionary clock leaps forward. And so we always want to remember things that happen during the eclipse portal have to do with our soul evolution, and they usually come in at rapid warp speed. And so we have had all of our eclipses in the axis of relationships since early 2023, Libra and Aries.
[00:30:40] And now, All of the eclipses are going to be in Virgo Pisces, which just means that the collective themes are shifting. So the Virgo Pisces axis is the axis of spirituality, health, healing. It is the, axis that rules the connection between matter and spirit, matter being Virgo, spirit being Pisces. In a way I always, as a Virgo , I think about it is the The process of integrating heaven and earth in a lot of ways.
[00:31:13] And so we do have one more Aries eclipse, which we'll talk about that closes up the cycle of the last two years, but from then on, they're all going to be in Virgo Pisces. So This is going to be a really interesting time because Pisces is the last sign of the Zodiac.
[00:31:26] So here again is this sort of existential archetypal focus, , we've got these outer planets, which we've alluded to that are at the end of the Zodiac, we've got the nodal axis The north node, which is our collective soul's destiny point for the next two years in the last sign of the Zodiac. So as I mentioned before, there's going to be a lot of people having extremely, expanded experiences of consciousness or just a new level of spiritual awareness integrating into their everyday world.
[00:32:01] Virgo. So Virgo is matter, Virgo is the body, Virgo is more like 3D in here on the planet, on the earth, and Pisces is the infinite, it's the boundless, it's the mystery, it's everything we can't define or control. And, the fact that , we're dancing with all of this energy that is very apocalyptic, which is the end, right, it also, for some, is going to create a lot of existential anxiety.
[00:32:28] So we're going to be seeing again, this sort of duality of some people having a really, beautiful, creative, , inspiring experience of reality and some people, a lot of people will probably be teetering on , levels of breakdown, depression, and, , phobias and , even neurosis and psychosis, actually
[00:32:53] the
[00:32:53] Shannon: shadow of Pisces , is addiction.
[00:32:55] So there's going to be a lot of people that aren't going to be able to really handle the speed of things. If you haven't really been doing your work and everything's crumbling on the outside, which we know we've been anticipating and we're welcoming it because we have to, , we can trust that, that decay.
[00:33:11] That disintegration of, , the corrupt systems and structures has to go through this alchemical process, but if you've only been focusing your awareness on the third dimension and on the narrative and on the propaganda as things shift in this dramatic way with the economy and. Jobs, , Virgo's work, Pisces is dissolution, , AI taking over, it's like all the jobs going away.
[00:33:34] , this can create a lot of chaos.
[00:33:37] Russ: Yeah, , playing on this theme about the larger symbols with Aries and Libra and with, , Pisces and Virgo, we're dancing over, , this aspect of life and death again, we have several, , transits this year that are going over this point.
[00:33:53] And with the ancient symbols, you can see a lot , deeper into the mystery and, you're playing with this idea of the born and the unborn and the Aries symbol as actually the egg. It is the symbol of birth and the Libra symbol is related to the ovaries themselves. So the scales and the ovaries kind of resemble.
[00:34:17] So there's a rebalancing, but when you shift back into it, when you're shifting into , the Pisces Virgo, this is the place of the unborn. This is the gulf of souls. Pisces is the nebulous unbound realms and Virgo is the mother. This is the womb. So we're kind of reversing back into this, we're stepping back into this idea towards the creative source and towards the mother, towards healing the wounds of the mother.
[00:34:40] So I think, there's a lot to be learned, not just in, the basics of astrology, but in the symbols in which they represent and telling us where we're moving forward, both in our soul's evolution, also collectively what's happening. And we're seeing , this return , to, , truth, actually stepping out of the illusion of Pisces , and, , owning our, what would you say, Shannon?
[00:35:03] Shannon: Well, , just embodying the divinity within that it's not outside of ourselves. This is , the fulcrum of the axis of duality truly there's a lot about ascension. Well, it's actually descension, it's bringing the light down into the temple. Virgo, is the earth sign, the body.
[00:35:19] She rules health, and there's gonna be , a real strong focus on health. There's actually gonna be a lot of health, imbalances coming to the surface , just as a result of a lot of the interference of what's been put in our environment. And amplified since 2020. There's a lot of interference going on.
[00:35:33] And so a lot of that's going to manifest. But the thing about that is that , as a response, all these extraordinary technologies are going to be coming online. Pluto in Aquarius to counteract. To dissolve any of these, , malefic implants or whatever it is that we might have falling from the sky or in our water or in our food.
[00:35:54] There are technologies that are emerging that are going to be able , to cure and to not just cure, but to help us to evolve into this homoluminous into this more of this light being. , so it really is going to be a time to Not take your health for granted, anything that's going on really addressing, , another, duality , with Virgo Pisces is that Virgo, she's the master of systems and, I like to think of her as like grandmother spider where she's weaving the web with all the details.
[00:36:27] And, so she has things under control and , she's really a perfectionist and a lot of things, but in shadow, she's. Highly contentious and anxious and worrying all the time.
[00:36:38] Russ: I just wanted to also add I appreciate the plug for Virgo But the the matrix comes from the word mother which is also part of this detailed and system so this is where the Pisces can reflect the illusion of These of the matrix Excel.
[00:36:54] So there's a general reflection there that happens. Well,
[00:36:57] Shannon: of course, they work together. They're an axis. Yeah. And so the shadow of Virgo is overly focused and controlling and anxious and in fear and scared, , and so what we're going to be asked to do is to trust. That's what Pisces is saying.
[00:37:09] Trust the unknown. How do you walk forward when we can't see the future? The future looks more like a sci fi movie than it does anything else. We don't even know what the essential services are going to be. It's about trusting what we can't control.
[00:37:22] Russ: Well, you mentioned sci fi movie. So this is where at the end of matrix revolutions, Neo gets his eyes.
[00:37:28] Gouged out and he has to trust. This is where we are. If you're in this part of a conscious evolution. Is that we're in a place where we have to trust the energy, the field around us and not use our physical eyes, but use our higher eyes to see what's happening. Yeah. And
[00:37:45] Shannon: it's not to the extreme of like nihilism of like, Oh, well, whatever's going to happen, it doesn't matter, , and then going too far into that Pisces shadow, which is escapism.
[00:37:54] And so that's, if we see ourselves. Leaning too far into that boundless state of like, too much, plant medicine or just, , not functioning well in the plan, then we lean back towards Virgo and it's like, you know what? No, it's chop wood carry water, like being present. And so these are these nuanced, dualities that the seesaw is going to be bouncing between.
[00:38:19] I
[00:38:19] Tianna: was just laughing that it wouldn't be, , an, episode with you guys , if Russell didn't do at least a couple of movie references, so I'm glad we got one of those under our belt.
[00:38:28] Russ: Just bring it back. It all works together. , messages are not just coming from people on podcasts like us.
[00:38:33] They're coming from everything around you. If you open your eyes, there are levels of information coming through storytelling, through the media, if you can see through the lies. so much. Through, patterns in nature, the information you need is everywhere. We have to just wake up to it.
[00:38:48] Tianna: So I always want to ask, but I feel like, Oh, it's generally the same answer, but , what are the practical ways that people can prepare?
[00:38:55] And I think when we're talking about these dualities of polarity , it's really about balancing both and integrating them. So, , like you're saying, having your regular, healthy habits. Maybe what you eat and taking care of your body and exercising and staying grounded in your body while also regularly connecting to, or more embodying, like you're saying, embodying your higher self and having that, open channel to spirit and integrating them.
[00:39:22] But do you have , any other recommendations that might help people to deal with this?
[00:39:26] Shannon: Yeah, I think that detoxification is going to become really important.
[00:39:31] , Pisces also rules the immune system and it rules viruses and it rules situations that are larger, like forces that are out of control that are, Consuming and overwhelming and so the more that we can purify the vessel, I think the more that we're going to be able to withstand sort of the turbulence and the speed of things that are going to continue to be coming at us.
[00:39:54] So I would say that as well. As far as this particular component, I think that , those are the main things, obviously, having your spiritual practice, but, there's other suggestions that we have that I think we'll just wait until we hit some of those different parts in the year that is a little more relevant.
[00:40:10] Tianna: Okay.
[00:40:10] Shannon: Yeah., so February Mars stations direct and on the 23rd and then March is going to really take off with a lot of complexity, a lot of amping up the intensity We'll be entering eclipses and right around the 1st of March. And on the 1st of March, Venus turns
[00:40:27] retrograde.
[00:40:28] Shannon: It's right after, so it's like the cosmic lovers, right?
[00:40:31] They're like passing in the night. So Mars goes direct and Venus goes retrograde. And which is just so fascinating, right? It's gonna retrograde, , starting in Aries. And go back to Pisces, and it will be retrograde until April 12th. So of course, the review, re evaluation, reconsideration is going to be around relationships, relationship to self, relationship to others, finances, our creative endeavors.
[00:40:59] , Venus moves in these eight year cycles. And so you can look back, , to like 2017 to see some themes. On that note, I should go back and just add one more important point about the shift of the nodes. The last time the nodes were in Virgo Pisces was also right around 2016
[00:41:18] 2017.
[00:41:18] Shannon: It's a nine year cycle, so that's where you want to follow The thread around what were the big changes in your life. And there's going to be some of that revisiting. Then we're going to roll right into the first eclipse on March 14th, which will be the first eclipse in Virgo. It's a lunar eclipse.
[00:41:36] This is definitely the time where we're going to be needing to really focus on, there's going to be some stuff happening. Basically March is really loaded , the invitation is going to be like, well, how do you handle chaos?
[00:41:48] Right?
[00:41:49] Shannon: How do you deal with things that are feeling really wild or are out of our control? , are you checking out or are you worrying? Those are both the shadows. Worrying is Virgo, checking out is Pisces. How do we stay in trust? Stay in motion, , amplify the light, which is my theme.
[00:42:07] Two weeks later, we will have The last eclipse in Aries. So we're going to close that gate that started in the spring of 2023. We had the big full solar eclipse in Aries, April 8th last year. And so this is the final chapter and it's a new moon. It's sort of like the rebirth version of Ourself, the I am.
[00:42:30] That's the axis of relationships, but Aries is the relationship to self and how we're moving forward from the journey that we've been on. , I think all of us have been, , kind of chiseling away , at the sculpture of who we are and having to look at all of our unconscious parts and our relationship dynamics.
[00:42:47] So that I think is going to feel really good to sort of press pause on for another nine years. To some degree, , and then March 30th is, one of the biggest things of the entire year, Neptune, which is the planet that rules Pisces, leaves that anaretic degree, that death degree, that last degree of Pisces and moves into Aries.
[00:43:09] And it's a big deal because Neptune takes 165 years to go around the Zodiac.
[00:43:15] Wow.
[00:43:16] Shannon: So it hasn't been there for 165 years. It's a really big deal.
[00:43:20] Russ: Yeah. Just to put this in perspective, , we look at this, , in a historical,, perspective to gather more information. We can see signatures of, what may happen based on where these planets have been before.
[00:43:33] So, , in , 1861 to 1875 U. S. Civil War and Reconstruction. You had Neptune in Aries as well. This is one of the war signatures that we've been looking at , so, this energy was not just, focused here in the United States. In China, you also had concurrent civil wars.
[00:43:52] In fact, you had one of the largest civil wars, and this was an interesting revolt that took place in the name of Jesus, of all things, , an attempt to build a communist, manifesto type of, commune structure in China long before communism came about. This was called the Taiping Civil War.
[00:44:12] Nearly 30 million people were estimated to have been killed. And this is only one aspect of the concurrent civil wars that took place. During this time. So this is something you may see, happening around the world again civil war, and , this is because of the Neptune and Aries aspect. This is only one , of the transits that we see.
[00:44:31] We have several more we'll talk about. , but to think about this in terms of the spiritual side of our progression, , this is where you need to master your dream logic to bring it back into realms we can actually handle dreams are not necessarily rational. So Neptune and Aries, , you've got to be able to find your way through this fog.
[00:44:50] So in Neptune in Pisces. You had to either become lost in the dreamscape, or you dreamed yourself into becoming a powerful mystic. Now, with Neptune and Ares, you can either allow yourself to be dreamed into the warscape that's coming, or you can dream yourself to become the hero. , I have to throw on another plug.
[00:45:10] Like Iron Man. Iron Man is Ares. And so is Robert Downey Jr., the person who played Iron Man. So, yeah, think of yourself in this. You're the Ares hero. So when we move into whatever level of destruction and civil war that may come in our systems, you are already mentally prepared for that.
[00:45:26] Shannon: Yeah, I love that. , cause Aries is the warrior archetype. And here in , the same month in March, we have this eclipse in Aries. We have Neptune, which rules the collective consciousness moving into Aries. I mean, just to even like sit with that, right. That hasn't happened in 165 years.
[00:45:41] Last time it happened in civil war, not to mention that, we've got Pluto and Aquarius, which was a global revolution last time that happened 248 years ago, it was the American revolution, the French revolution, and then we've got Uranus and Gemini moving into Gemini. Also a war signature. So we're not dancing around any of the fact that all the signatures are pointing to an Escalation of conflict on the planet.
[00:46:04] Russ: Yes some additional historical information for people who follow eschatological thinking the end of the world in times kind of thinking the fall of the second temple took place in 70 AD This took place under Neptune in Aries, Pluto in Aquarius, and the nodes shifting from Aries Libra into Pisces Virgo.
[00:46:23] So, we had several of those taking place. Then, you see, we could see something like this. I know a lot of people are thinking that we are entering into a messianic period. This could be an indicator of something like that. On an inner level, on a health level, this is where the body may attack itself.
[00:46:38] It may be confused and fight back. Against it, your own attempts to heal itself. This is where autoimmune diseases come into play. So Neptune and Aries. Think about this , inner, outer struggle. It goes through cycles.
[00:46:50] Shannon: Yeah. And I mean, , that's kind of what I was alluding to with the Virgo Pisces axis.
[00:46:55] The nodal axis is that there's going to be just, when I say a focus on health, that's not necessarily always a great thing. Like we're seeing just some really odd mutations and things happening as a result, as I said, of a lot of different factors, environmental and otherwise. , so that's going to be, just, Interesting.
[00:47:15] And I think that we have all the tools and we're going to continue to evolve into, manifesting those tools. , it brings me to just like an overarching, dynamic that's on the planet that also pertains to this Pisces Virgo dynamic is the Virgo is sort of like reality.
[00:47:32] Pisces is like the dream is also like illusion. So there's this interesting phenomena happening on the planet between fact and fiction, right? What is real? And then that pertains to very, many different, areas of life. But , we all know that there's a lot of narratives going on on the planet, right?
[00:47:49] So I feel like this Neptune moving in Aries could just burn through the illusions. That fire of Aries is like, there is no more question. Call me a conspiracy theorist. I don't care. Here we are, , a lot of us have been seeing , through the facade, through the fog, through the disillusionment, through the chaos for so long that we're going to get to a point where I feel , it's like breaking through into the new dawn and I really see that coming.
[00:48:15] And I also feel like there's another component, that's going to be joining, you Neptune, which is, , Saturn is going to be entering Aries as well. So
[00:48:24] Russ: Before we move on to Saturn Aries, , so thinking about this in sci fi terms, there was a film that came out in 1999. I'm saying , these dates for a reason.
[00:48:34] This was also the same year The Matrix came out, but there was a film called The Dark City, and , it had Kiefer Sutherland in it, , and it didn't do that well at the box office because The Matrix blew everybody's minds, , but it was very important in how it saw the world as a morphing dream.
[00:48:49] Everything morphed around the characters. , every time you went to bed at night, you woke up a different person. You woke up in a different space. You woke up in a different city. , nothing , was real. And you come to find out there's a hierarchical structure of beings and , non physical beings behind it all, manipulating the world.
[00:49:08] And so just take a look at that for some hints, because , this is something that's being revealed to us. , in one of the, sci fi ways,
[00:49:14] Shannon: Yeah. So back to Saturn enters Aries. This is why this is just epic. The fact that Saturn and Neptune are entering Aries together to the zero point, which is the birth point. , it's the beginning. So what that also means is that it's the end, right?
[00:49:33] This is the snake because on May 24th, Saturn also enters Aries. Saturn is the establishment. It's the structures entering Ares, it's saying the birth of new structures, the birth of new leadership. So , it could be bold reform, certainly rebellion, , the Ares is the warrior and it's the birth, but , it's also war.
[00:49:56] Russ: So it also can, indicate a rough time and difficult time for leaders. And I think we're gonna see that this is Saturn. It's not gonna be a walk in the park. , it can also indicate a need or a desire or a surge for sovereignty, which also incorporates anti authoritarianism. If you're gonna be your own sovereign, you're gonna shake off other authoritarian ideas and rules.
[00:50:17] So, along with Pluto and Aquarius, we have a lot of anti establishment rhetoric and energy building up. And I think this is gonna add to that.
[00:50:26] Shannon: Yeah, I mean, we could go on and on. , it was in 1937, the prelude to the World War II is when Saturn moved into Aries, , so the rest of the Russian Revolution, same thing happened in 1905.
[00:50:36] So I don't think it's, if really that this is going to happen, but, , it does feel to me like. Back to the original theme, activating, amplifying the light that we have to realize our responsibility here. The major, illusion of the last 2000 years was the program that were powerless and then we've been bystanders.
[00:50:59] of evolution, bystanders of reality, , being sort of told what to do by only a few that were controlling the narrative, controlling everything, the resources, , the social, the environmental, the religious doctrines, everything. And that this is the blinders coming off. This is the great awakening is realizing that we actually have the capacity to create whatever it is we decide we want to create.
[00:51:26] And when We get to that tipping point where enough of us are focused on and holding so we have to hold that light quotient and amplify it through the dark, then I feel like we're going to take this quantum leap and that if we do go through a period , of amplified, destruction on the planet that maybe it's fast and furious and it's over quickly.
[00:51:48] , and that actually, that, , with the potential of new regimes and with the potential, I always focus, the light on. whoever these players are, that this is their role in , this round of the darkness, whoever have the power to pull the strings, to make the decision, , to press the button or not, to infuse love and connection and compassion and forgiveness into the hearts of those that have all this capacity right now, because I really feel strongly that the awakening will happen within.
[00:52:18] And , it just brings me to, I just want to drop this little piece and if somebody's interested at, we can put a link , in the bio, but my teacher, Nancy Crossthwaite, called me in the middle of the night back a few months back and said, Shannon, I thought maybe she was hurt. I thought maybe she failed.
[00:52:36] I thought I was like, Nancy, we're close friends now. She said, there are at least 20 spacecraft above my house right now. And she was woken the night. And heard a voice that said it's time to go for a run. And so she knew that meant go outside. She went outside and she saw this fleet. And they were, they were harmonized.
[00:52:57] And they look like these little gold triangles in the sky. Excuse me, silver. And she watched them until they disappeared. She called her son who works at the airport. And he. Was awake and he saw them, she went back inside when they were out of sight and went into meditation. Of course, she has that gift with channeling.
[00:53:14] And she basically was contacted by who she believes was the galactic federation that that they are visiting places on the earth. Power places , where the leaders are, where the people that have all the influence are and infusing benevolent energy. And it was the day that Trump was in town, which I thought was just wild because Trump came to Austin.
[00:53:37] And so I have a lot of faith that yes. Things may get wild. And we haven't talked a lot about this, but the drone activity, , there's thinking about going on. Yes. I mean, it's like our little games that we're playing down here, , this is mine. No, this is mine. , fighting. , I feel like.
[00:53:53] The grand scheme of things is just so far going to outshine and outweigh any of these like human squabbles that we're having. So yes, we've been here before at , these times in history where these, aspects collide, but we're not where we were. That's evolution in action. We have evolved, the collective consciousness has evolved dramatically.
[00:54:14] And it's taking quantum leaps. So , we can take the reign. Whenever you're in your meditation or when you're hearing about something on the news, don't catastrophize it in your mind. Take it where you want to see it go with your consciousness. Imagine it there. Spend some time, active imagination of what would it look like to turn this ship around.
[00:54:33] And I'd really feel like not only is it our capacity, but it's our responsibility as the lightworkers and the wayshowers.
[00:54:40] Tianna: I appreciate you, sharing that empowering perspective. And I think we will need to continue being very vocal coming from that perspective to balance out all the others that are going to be, the sky is falling, , focusing that way.
[00:54:55] So yeah, we need to keep sharing . These anecdotes and, this perspective to help people help ourselves stay aligned with the higher perspective. I was wondering as far as Saturn and Neptune coming together, because they seem such opposite, like you said, like Saturn reality and Neptune, illusion or anyway, mystical.
[00:55:18] And, Is there a constructive place of integration for the two of them or they just cancel each other out
[00:55:24] Shannon: yeah, no, I mean, the way that I see it is Saturn is our 3d reality. It's the structures and the foundation and our leadership. Neptune is our spirituality, our higher consciousness, our connection to source.
[00:55:38] It's spiritualizing reality. , at the birth canal, starting a new cycle , but it's also important to say that , they're going to go through that birth canal and then , they're going to be brought back in. So it's this false labor because they're going to retrograde in the fall back to the death degree of Pisces.
[00:55:58] So they're going to do this a couple of times over the next two years. This is where this apocalyptic narrative will probably get really loud.
[00:56:06] Because it's this fiery sort of volatile, explosive energy of birth and then going back into, , this end times energy.
[00:56:17] Tianna: But , I kind of liked the fact that they come back to it cause maybe they initially clash and then we start to work with those energies and find a way that hopefully when they come back together again, maybe we have.
[00:56:29] Learn how to better work with them
[00:56:32] Shannon: yeah, I think it's absolutely right. I think that there's going to be negotiations that have to happen, , globally. And so it's not going to all just happen at once right there in March and May. No, this is over a two year period and it's through 2027.
[00:56:45] Wow, But there's one other really significant player and I know it actually It leans a little bit more towards the second of the year so we can wait to go into it More deep but in July July 7th Uranus the planet that rules Aquarius The lightning bolt of change in the hands of destiny the storm of awakening leaves Taurus and enters Gemini.
[00:57:08] And so this awakening energy, this radical revolutionary, also disruptive energy enters Gemini, which is the mind.
[00:57:18] Russ: Yeah. So you said revolutionary and just a reminder that, , our country was founded during Uranus and Gemini. So it is in the United States natal chart. , it was there from , 1775 to 1782.
[00:57:31] , this was, in a period during the revolution. It was also there , since it's 84 year cycle, it was there during the United States Civil War, like we mentioned earlier. , and it was there during the time the United States entered into World War II. So the war in Europe had been going on for a few years.
[00:57:47] And then when Uranus, went into Gemini, we were in World War II. So , it is a war signature as well. We need to keep that in mind.
[00:57:54] Shannon: Right. And it also has that capacity to amplify awakening in the minds of the collective. , so again, we're going to have this dual experience, , Gemini is one of the signs of duality.
[00:58:06] Pisces also one of the signs of duality. And this is just what's going to be so fascinating, right? Yeah.
[00:58:13] Russ: Well, one of the things I like you that you said previously was about the conflict and so Gemini is a conflict and it can become a conflict in how you see things in duality since it is about duality at some point these things are going to come to a head and I think under Uranus in Gemini so much energy is given to this, , that it becomes an internal and an external conflict.
[00:58:36] Shannon: Yeah, I mean, . Uranus and Gemini tends to trigger wars because it represents a collapse of outdated ideas and an emergence of a new worldview. So all of this polarization that we have seen, especially amplified since 2020, just can't continue, and that's where I feel like also the blinders coming off, , the illusions being dissolved whenever we leave Pisces where everything's foggy, you don't know what to believe.
[00:59:01] And we move into Aries where it's actually just like right in our face what's happening and everything's coming. It's this time of the great revealing. I mean, , this is the apocalypse, right? What else would we expect?
[00:59:13] Tianna: So I'm hearing that we should really appreciate things being a little bit quiet right now and kind of, , prepare for , like rocket ship kind of activations and, things moving really intensely or rapidly.
[00:59:28] Starting, , March or something like that.
[00:59:31] Russ: Yeah. March and April, just to put a head on this March and April are going to be sort of like a clown circus, , it's going to have more of a carnival atmosphere and I was doing some research into this recently. With looking at Saturn and Aries, and I was watching this show on Netflix, they were revisiting what happened in Woodstock , in 1999, , of course, which that was a attempted repeat of the, , revolutionary energy of 1969.
[00:59:57] Well, it was a total disaster. It became a class of cultural nadir is what it was expressed as like everything. It was pinnacle and culture at that time came to a head and kind of clashed at this one giant festival. You should watch this on Netflix. But I was just curious and I look back and it occurred during Saturn and Aries, this event that took place.
[01:00:17] And so. , I feel like there's a reflection of a microcosm of what we're going to see on the macrocosm coming up. So check it out.
[01:00:24] Shannon: Yeah. one thing I think that we don't want to forget to include here, and we briefly mentioned it at the beginning, is that the backdrop of all of these major things
[01:00:34] is the Pluto that is now officially in Aquarius for, , 1920 years. And so this is about power to the people transformation of the collective. So we have to trust the process that it will be rocky at times. And it's also about this, , coming online with all these Aquarian archetypal, mechanisms, which.
[01:00:56] AI, cryptocurrency to name a few. If you're not already on board, we highly suggest that you start learning, especially about crypto. It is the decentralization of currency. We don't want the same, hierarchical paradigm anymore. And so this is the way of the future,
[01:01:16] Russ: yeah, there are a lot of people questioning the validity and, , whether the value of crypto, it could hold up in the end. And I think of it as more of a stepping stone. Right now, we see this transition happening, and Bitcoin may not be a permanent store of value 100 years from now, but right now, it could be a better bet than the dollar, for example.
[01:01:35] You need to be thinking in these terms. We're in a transitional age. We're in transitional periods. Right now, you're going to see a bull run in crypto for the next three months. People need to be paying attention. Your fortunes are being made as we enter into this first part of the year , it will taper off later in the year, but I think paying attention to the first quarter.
[01:01:52] By the time we get to the end of April, we should have a lot of changes coming out with AI and crypto. Yeah, same with
[01:01:59] Shannon: AI. It's just like money. It's neutral. It depends on whose hands are in it or with it. And so really, we have a responsibility, again, to infuse it with consciousness. And I highly recommend that you get on board because otherwise you're going to be left behind and it's really about giving us our humanity back.
[01:02:17] It's taking away a lot of the minutia and the things that keep us from being able to really enjoy our lives. And I'd love to also put a plug in for some of our allies that we work with here. That are doing phenomenal work, helping to set people up in all the ways that can serve their life. And they have some really affordable programs.
[01:02:35] And so, we can also hopefully put that link in the bio for people that really are like, I don't know how to start. They've really got us going and we're really, Russell and I seeing a lot of benefits in our own work and our own personal life from working , in finding ways to implement this into everything.
[01:02:50] Russ: And I just wanted to say, , on a larger, time scope. I do feel like it's going to intensify. So , we may be spouting a little bit of doom, , at the moment, but by 2027, you really need to have your ducks in a row. You need to get foundational. So there's going to be a massive shift.
[01:03:06] If you want to just take look at gene key 55, for example, this explains what's going to happen. Globally in our civilization. This is something that, everyone should be paying attention to as we prepare to, , move into this , next level of transition.
[01:03:21] Shannon: Yeah. It's this real, , I feel like leap as we talked about this, like, , humans are evolving into our divine.
[01:03:29] Essence. , it's like we're stripping down the layers of, , amnesia, the layers of separation, the layers of density, and there's going to be this actual biological shift. It's basically a mutation of our solar plexus and, Archetypally, what it is, is that we're evolving out of victim consciousness into true freedom.
[01:03:50] And so victim consciousness is everywhere on the planet. We're a victim to whoever has done us wrong. This is basically the illusion of separation. It is the shadow of the Pisces age. And so that's one thing, anywhere that you can identify where you're running some kind of a victim program, you're That's how you're perpetuating your own sleep, your own amnesia.
[01:04:10] We are ultimately responsible for everything in our world because there is only one mind. And so that's the way we take our power back is to take control of how we can work to transmute our own shadow and to tap into infinite consciousness, our true power. Blueprint our divinity.
[01:04:27] Russ: So I just wanted to read this real quick.
[01:04:28] , this isn't about, , a sudden external change, but it's about a subtle, yet profound inner shift that will ripple outward as individuals embody their highest frequency and help anchor a new world based on trust, love, and unity. And I believe that was written by our friend cause, wasn't it? Oh, nice. AI.
[01:04:48] AI wrote that.
[01:04:50] Shannon: Our AI assistant. Yes. We've been without him all these years.
[01:04:54] Russ: Consciousness is shifting. And it just says it right there. The AI could write that. And it's like, it gets it,
[01:04:58] Tianna: amazing. Well, I know we're well over time and going to have you back to mid year, we'll see where we've all landed mid year after a lot of these crazy stuff starts to get activated.
[01:05:11] , if you could share the, ways that people can connect with you and your work.
[01:05:15] Shannon: My personal website, if you would like a deep dive reading, is shannonleigill. com. And you can also find my astrology courses on there. I'm starting an essentials course. basic, , spiritual astrology course around spring equinox.
[01:05:33] For those that are a little more advanced already, I have a second tier level starting here on January 29th. And then we have our shift foundation, which is all of our events. And that is, , the shift foundation dot o r g. org. So you could subscribe there to find out all the fun things that we do.
[01:05:52] Russ: And, if you're interested, you can find me at mind frontiers.net. And I have some things posted on Nimrod's bow channel at YouTube.
[01:06:03] Tianna: Yes. Perfect. Wonderful. Thank you so much for making time to share all of this with us. And I look forward to seeing how it's all going to play out. I feel excited about it. I'm
[01:06:14] Shannon: so excited about it. Thank you so much. We always love being on your show.
[01:06:17] Thank you for doing the good work and taking us beyond the illusion.
[01:06:22] Tianna: I love that you threw that in there.