Cheryl Aarts, Alchemical Healing Practitioner & Teacher
“Alchemical healing is a modality where we're shifting the energy of what's no longer serving you, removing the darkness and bringing into the light.” -Cheryl Aarts. 🌟 This week Cheryl shares how her own healing crisis led her from being a skeptic who worked in the defense industry to becoming an Alchemical Healer & Teacher in the Thoth lineage - awakening a deep connection to the Egyptian pantheon. Discover how this powerful method, with connections to Egypt & Shamanism, can unlock transformation for your healing & spiritual growth.
Highlights:
What makes Alchemical Healing unique?
Who brought in this modality and how does it connect to Egypt?
How did Cheryl’s concussion experience lead her to shift careers & become a healing practitioner?
What’s the process of a typical Alchemical Healing session with Cheryl?
Why is it so valuable to have a guided spiritual retreat in Egypt?
How did she get pushed to “come out of the spiritual closet”?
Who could benefit from getting trained in Alchemical Healing?
How does Cheryl’s family feel about the work she does now & how does she deal with that?
What might be the higher purpose of something not healing right away?
How can we each contribute to massive alchemical shift happening in the world right now?
CHERYL AARTS is a Soul Alignment Coach, Holistic Healing Practitioner, QHHT Level 2 practitioner & Certified Alchemical Healing Practitioner/Teacher initiated into the Thoth lineage. Cheryl is an International Best-Selling Co-Author of the book “Unlocking the Matrix: The New Codes of Ancient Egypt.” She offers healing sessions, classes & guided spiritual retreats: https://www.willowroots.net/
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. She’s the author of “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self.” Her book is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth, available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
TIM HOWE has always been interested in unusual and strange phenomena and considers himself to be a consciousness explorer. He was born & raised in Table Rock Village, Wyoming, which happens to no longer exist. He currently makes his home in Austin, Texas where he’s constantly surrounded by beautiful females (wife, daughter & cat).
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TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Tianna: I love to have people on our podcasts that I've had sessions with or are taking classes with. When I meet someone doing something really cool or that's been really positive for me, I love to have them on the podcast so that more people can learn about them and the things they offer. And so the way that I met Cheryl.
[00:00:20] Was I took her alchemical healing training the first level and I also have had a session with her, which is really fantastic. And so maybe if we start there as far as what is alchemical healing and how did you come to learn this? and teach it.
[00:00:40] Cheryl: So alchemical healing, it's not an easy modality to explain because it's so fascinating and so interesting, but the way it's easily explained is that we're shifting energy.
[00:00:54] What's no longer serving you, removing kind of the darkness and bringing into the light is more like the simplistic way to explain it. Not unlike other healing modalities, but alchemical healing has access to so many tools and techniques. And it brings in shamanistic healing tools, like the sucking cure or soul retrieval, removing attachments, working with the elements of earth, air, water, fire, and Akasha.
[00:01:24] And so much amazing stuff happens in Akasha. And so with optimal healing, when somebody comes to me with something, I'm asking to get to the root of it. What is the root cause? What is like right at the root of it and to try to help people understand that and help them experience it as their healing too.
[00:01:44] So, alchemical healing is unique in that we get the person that's receiving the healing to really feel and sense what's happening. So their belief system goes up as they're experiencing it. It's a really beautiful modality. I came into it through healing myself, which is most people's journey in this, you know, healer, heal thyself.
[00:02:05] And I had a concussion in 2015 and was working with most of the allopathic modalities. I was osteopathy, chiropractic, massage therapy, all these great things, but physiotherapy. And I wasn't moving ahead in my healing until I found a woman who did this work. And to be honest, my very first treatment, I was a skeptic.
[00:02:29] I remember laying on the table and I had three women working on me and I was like, this is ridiculous. This is doing nothing. I feel nothing. And it was a couple of weeks later , as those of us who know in this work, it takes a couple of weeks to integrate and process what you receive. And two weeks later, I was like, wow, lights don't bother me anymore.
[00:02:48] , concussion, typically you have sensitivities and lights and sound , and things bother you. And I was like, wow, that's dropped down a huge, huge notch for me. And so I just became curious with this woman who hosted this healing circle and she offered to teach it one weekend. And I was contemplating, I wasn't sure.
[00:03:10] And so I bought my first Oracle cards. Or I think there were angel cards or something. And I remember asking the question, like, should I take this energy healing course? And the card I pulled was energy healing, like it was literally take an energy healing course. So I actually threw the cards cause it scared me a little bit.
[00:03:28] And then I called the woman and I registered right there on the spot to take alchemical healing. And then I think once the universe knew that I was engaged in this work, it put me on a fast track and was like, okay, you're going to get your practitioner and you're going to become a teacher and you're going to go to Egypt.
[00:03:46] And all these wonderful things started to happen. So, I came into it and healing and I completely healed my concussion through alchemical healing. So it was really, really powerful. And so , I've seen and witnessed how powerful it can be. And that's why I love it. And I want to share it more with the world.
[00:04:01] So I'm so grateful to be here. I'm grateful to share this amazing modality with others.
[00:04:06] Tim: I think something that stood out to me just now was that you went to Egypt. What was that all about? Did you plan the trip or did it just happen? Or what was it? What was the reason for going to Egypt?
[00:04:17] Cheryl: So alchemical healing has a tie to the Egyptian pantheon. the person that brought this to the world is Nikki Scully, a really beautiful human. And she started having this connection to Egypt and going to Egypt many times in the seventies and eighties. And she connected with Thoth. The God of wisdom, science, math, healing, all of that.
[00:04:38] And so Egypt is very deep part of alchemical healing. But to be honest, I never had a desire to go to Egypt. There was never a desire. You talk to many people in our kind of world and people like, yes, I've dreamed of it, and I was like, Nope. But when I started to get into this work, I almost felt like somebody was pulling, like I was getting pulled.
[00:04:59] So I remember going there, going, I don't know why I'm going here. I just know I need to be there. And even to the fact that as we were about to board the plane, I remember standing at the gate and literally felt like a rope was tied to me, getting me on the plane. It was really incredible.
[00:05:14] And what happened for me there, this was in 2018, I left London, Ontario flew to Egypt and I was still very much experiencing symptoms of my concussion and I've healed and purged every ounce of my illness there, completely healed. So six weeks after coming home from Egypt, I was able to ride a roller coaster, go see a concert, like a hundred percent healed.
[00:05:40] It was this incredible transformation. So wasn't an easy trip. It was intense. It was intense, but, actually it's interesting because I remember leaving there going, see ya. Thank you. Thank you. I'm very grateful. I will not be back. And in two weeks from now, I'm actually going back.
[00:05:58] So it's amazing what can happen. I'm being now called to lead people there in Egypt. So, never say never. Spirit world has plans for us that we don't know.
[00:06:08] Tianna: Yeah. I think that there's a lot of people in the spiritual journey that feel a connection to Egypt and I'm one of those as well.
[00:06:16] Do you have any sense of maybe having spent other lifetimes there before or certain connection with some of the Egyptian gods or whatnot?
[00:06:27] Cheryl: Yeah, for sure. I think I've seen glimpses of a couple lifetimes. I know I've been a priest in a lifetime there. I believe I've given out initiations.
[00:06:39] That's what it feels like. I was someone who initiated others, So definitely lifetimes there, but I never dreamed of it as a child. But now there's such a deep infinity, like there's affinity for it and connection, and there's certain gods and goddesses there that are just near and dear to my heart.
[00:06:57] One in particular is Sekhmet. And so her statue that's still present in Karnak in Luxor. If you ever get a chance to go there, go to her chapel and spend some quiet time with her. And she is a beautiful, beautiful goddess, but very powerful, very powerful and her healing. So, yeah, deep, deep ties to all of them in, in different ways, especially through the work that I do now. I work with them quite a bit.
[00:07:25] Tianna: Aren't you a co author of a book? What is the book that you wrote, it has something to do with Egypt, yes?
[00:07:30] Cheryl: Yeah, the New Codes of Ancient Egypt. So that was based on my experience when I was there, and it was also downloads that I got from the Sphinx. Each chapter in the book is a different author.
[00:07:44] Okay. And the author brought forth different codes and mine were the initiation codes. I started to realize through some of my healing work when I was doing it is that people would come to me, they would say they'd had a certain ailment and that would be fine. We would work on that. And then there was initiation would follow in some form or fashion that would happen on the table very organically.
[00:08:06] So I don't advertise that. I just allow that to come through organically, but the initiation codes were there. And also I was being initiated to step forth higher into my role here. And that is taking to people to sacred places in the world, not only doing the work here were in my healing space, but taking people to these sacred places in the world to do to do that work as well.
[00:08:27] So
[00:08:27] Tianna: yeah, so then when you're taking people to these sacred places. Are you doing, because I went to Egypt in 2019. So I missed you by a year, but it wasn't a guided trip. It was me and my friend going and at some point, I'd like to go back and meditate in these spots I don't know if you have that option to meditate in one of the pyramids or anything like that.
[00:08:52] Can you talk a little bit more about what you'll be doing when you're guiding people there?
[00:08:57] Cheryl: Yeah, absolutely. I think if you want to go really truly experience Egypt, it's best to go into smaller groups that are guided and with very specific guides and that can take you to those places and have alone time so that they would set aside so that you go in the Great Pyramid and it's only for you, right?
[00:09:18] You book that time or you go to the Sphinx and you do sunrise ceremony at the Sphinx. So I think that's really important that if you want to have that experience because Egypt can get very busy and crowded in different places and depending on what time you go and what time of year you go. So I really highly recommend going with really, really great guides who've been there for a long time that know the ins and outs and know how to get in and out of places and when to go and how to go and all that.
[00:09:49] And so yeah, the intention is to spend some time in those places and to receive and to really take people on a journey as they go through each day or each temple that they go to, right. It's really like a shamanic journey almost as they go through Egypt. Likely is a lot of remembering. You're asking me about what my ties, but many of us, you know, that civilization was there for thousands of years, many of us have been there.
[00:10:18] So even stepping on the ground is a remembering. What's really fascinating about Egypt though, is that technically they don't really allow us that you're not really allowed to do open healing. In these places, even though these are the most potent and healing places in the world. And so we still had to tread carefully when we were there.
[00:10:40] We even had a code word. When the Egyptologist said this, then you had to pretend like you were a normal tourist, like taking pictures. So , it's really fascinating. We weren't allowed to really call attention to ourselves. So kind of cloak ourselves when we're doing our work.
[00:10:53] Yeah. When I first started going into kind of my healing crisis when I was there. We were in Edfu, which is the temple of Horus, and I couldn't control it. I started to cry uncontrollably, and so the group had a crowd around me. We almost, we had to like evacuate, get me out of there because the guards started getting, what's going on here? what were you guys doing?
[00:11:15] And , so you have to kind of really walk in the two worlds, be able to step in and out of those two worlds pretty, pretty easily when you're there too. Yeah, so it's a fascinating place, but definitely, you need to be guided. If you're going on a spiritual journey, it's great to be guided.
[00:11:30] Or if you just to get a connection with somebody who can take you to those places and have the experiences that you're looking for.
[00:11:38] Tianna: That's sad that this like such an ancient spiritual place and then they're like,
[00:11:43] Cheryl: Try to
[00:11:43] Tianna: take that out of it.
[00:11:45] Cheryl: It's really crazy. I know. And there's a couple different books and I don't even know, I don't believe that we actually are experiencing the most sacred and potent places in Egypt.
[00:11:57] I think those are actually still hidden from us. When we went to Abydos, which is kind of through the desert, we had to have arm escort through there and there's places they do not want you to go. I don't know. And so I believe that there's more, there's so much more that we're not being shown and seen.
[00:12:14] , but hopefully, as things start to open up and be revealed that that starts to open up to everyone.
[00:12:19] Tim: Do you think it's that they're trying to, I guess it's like governmental powers that are trying to prevent people from accessing these places. Do you think it's because they know like, Oh, these are really powerful places and this could maybe change the way that people.
[00:12:35] view the world.
[00:12:36] Cheryl: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's so much that has been hidden from us. The truth of our existence and many different things and I think the last four, 10 years, people have been uncovering that and I think those layers are still coming out and we're finding that out.
[00:12:54] but even so that the places that are still incredibly potent and magical. The experiences that you have there, if you allow you open yourself up and just surrender, it's incredible. And so it's really interesting too, because I find that the work that I do on the table with my client here can represent some of that alchemy that happens in Egypt.
[00:13:19] It's super powerful, even though it's a 90 minute session, people go through this really magical process when they're here. And it's not unlike being there in person in some respects.
[00:13:29] Tianna: I was thinking magical. I love that you use that word because I do feel like.
[00:13:34] That's something that we've lost touch with and it's missing in our mundane society. And part of why people often feel so drawn to Egypt because there is that sense of magic that's connected to it and also just the idea of alchemy. I think it's so useful in the times that we're in right now, the idea of taking lead and changing it to gold is like really taking the dark, heavy, challenging, difficult things in our life and how we can work through that to get the gifts and the light.
[00:14:07] There's so much heaviness in the world right now. And if we could look at it from an alchemical perspective, both in the collective and also individual, we could utilize that as an opportunity to transform rather than getting really negative or losing hope or becoming disheartened, which I think some people really are when they look at the state of the world.
[00:14:30] Cheryl: And I mean, the world is in the most incredible, alchemical process. Right now, like Mother Earth, there's so much transformation happening and our society, the Western Society is really making a massive shift. So when we look at it, it could look dark, but it's really what I believe is happening is just the light has being shone onto the darkness.
[00:14:52] The darkness has been there, and we need to see it. And it's not unlike an alchemical healing session, you need to see and understand it so we can change it. Right, we can we can when we know it's there. It's like, okay, that's what's there. I don't want to live in that space anymore. I want to bring more light to
[00:15:07] So how do we do that, right? Everything that's personal is also transpersonal, the microcosmic is the macrocosmic. It's people who come in for an individual healing, sometimes I see it like being this massive collective healing at the same time. And those of us who've been doing the work for a number of years, our healings are more on that scale.
[00:15:27] They tend to get a little bigger and whether we consciously signed up for or not, we're doing bigger work. And that ripples out to everyone as we do this work individually too. So yeah, super powerful.
[00:15:40] Tianna: Yeah. Speaking of that.
[00:15:42] Tianna: So have you noticed in the last year or a couple of years, any particular themes, maybe you have clients coming in, like you said, and there's certain themes that are coming in through them individually, but you're noticing that that's a theme for the collective.
[00:15:56] Cheryl: A hundred percent. I try to tell people who get down and are looking at the darkness, but I see so much light happening. There's so many of us that are really listening to the call and taking action. And so people are building healing centers, they're homesteading, they're turning to herbs, like these workshops and courses.
[00:16:17] And individually, people are realizing that what they've been doing. For the last 10, 20 years is no longer serving themselves and they're pulling themselves out of what I would say the matrix or kind of this world, of corporate greed and everything else. So I see so much changing.
[00:16:34] I see schools popping up everywhere where we're maintaining the magic in the children. There's so many incredible things that are happening. So I see it happening and I mean, I kind of keep a pulse on what's maybe not so lovely in the world, just so I can keep an eye on it, but I'm focusing on how I can shift it, how can I can change it and then that's what I say to people, I'm like, well, how are you contributing?
[00:17:00] What do you call to do that you need to do it? It's go time. It's time to step up really. Truly it is. And so we really have to step up and what we came here to do. And those of us who are kind of in this world, in this spiritual world we came here, there's a purpose we came, I mean, everyone has a purpose, but we came here to do things.
[00:17:19] We came here to shift the energy of this planet. And so yeah, I'm definitely seeing it. I'm seeing more and more beautiful souls just shifting their lives. And even if it's just they come in for their own healing, that's a shift. Yeah. So are you seeing it as well, Tianna?
[00:17:37] Tianna: Yeah, for sure. I see. Yeah, more people feeling pushed, feeling called to step into their purpose.
[00:17:45] You're saying, , I do feel. So we sometimes talk about this with Tim, like more of the masculine being willing to do the work. Yeah, so I see more men stepping up and yeah, a lot, like the percentage, it used to be a lot more women. And now I see really equal women and men.
[00:18:05] And also there's a spiritual awakening group that I organize and that started off really mostly women. And now it's like pretty 50-50. So I see a lot of that. I see, younger people waking up early and, talking about things like crystals and their spirit guides, even in high school, that's not something that was the case when I was growing up.
[00:18:28] So, that's all really inspiring and exciting.
[00:18:32] Cheryl: Yeah. 100 percent, that balance of the masculine and feminine, so important. I've experienced the same thing. I'm getting more masculine energy coming in. I would love to see more. I'm trying to invite in ways, just putting it out to the universe to help support the masculine and the best way that they can and looking for people.
[00:18:53] I know I've thought of bringing in someone who does survival, like survival skills, but just to get the men out here and then it being. It doesn't have to have this overtone of spirituality, but just give them an option. Instead of going to the shop and drinking beer, right? Like, there needs to be some other outlet to just to gather and to be and just talk and, Yeah, so, yeah, I'm trying to invite that in as well.
[00:19:16] , yeah,
[00:19:16] Tim: yeah, that's interesting that you say that to, about people just gathering instead of like, just coming together to drink beers or something like we should do other things together, too Right and because I've always thought that to like especially in America. America has a problem with trying to commoditize everything So you can't even meet with other people without having money, right?
[00:19:36] So We need to fix that. And I feel like that is a big part of our culture's issues is that we don't know each other because we never hang out together. And so we think everyone is like this evil person when really, if you knew them, you would be much more understanding and empathetic towards them.
[00:19:55] And, yeah, I've been trying to do that. Especially with my male friends is like, Hey, Let's go out and have dinner or something or let's meet up and just talk and you'd be surprised like They actually do want to do that. People are willing and wanting to hang out and do things together.
[00:20:11] And Yeah, I think it's also like you were saying earlier the time that we're living in Is so much better than even just a hundred years ago if you look at how much better the quality of life is for every single person, it's gone way up But of course, that's really hard for us to see because we're living in it, right?
[00:20:30] And we still have problems and we still have things that we want to be better. And of course that's fine. But you know, having perspective also helps because we're doing pretty good right now. I heard someone say, and I think it might've been Warren Buffett. Cause He pops up on my feed quite a bit and I don't know really why because I mean I'm not that interested in him But anyway, he said something really interesting.
[00:20:53] He said Yeah, the average person today lives like a king literally would have lived, a couple hundred years ago we have that much convenience at our fingertips the way a king would have had So, of course the quality of life is really good right now And yeah, it's good for all of us to remember that because I think we can feel like Oh especially when we're looking at the news or social media or something like oh my god This place is horrible, right?
[00:21:22] Like, there's just nothing but bad things happening out there But it's not true. We have elevated ourselves and we continue to and it's not the famous people or the government officials or anyone? No, it's everyone It's the regular people like we're the ones that are making this place better and better every day without us it wouldn't be the same, so I try to remember we have the power like This is where the power lives is in the regular people the everyday people and yeah I mean
[00:21:53] it's hard to get that message out, right? Because we live in an era of influencers and special people, right? The special people are where it's at. Like that's where we need to pay attention, but that's not where it's at. It's right here. It's right here in our own hearts and our own minds.
[00:22:09] And having a kid, having a teenager, really puts that up in my face, cause teenagers are literally obsessed with how unique they can be or how much they can stand out. And I'm like, yeah, it's okay. It's probably normal to you in your little world, but there's also some specialness in not standing out too.
[00:22:30] There is something to be gained from just being you because you came in with all these really great properties great aspects of yourself that you have to share with the world and you have to find out what those are because like you were saying a minute ago I forget exactly what you said, but it was basically like, Hey, we're here for a reason.
[00:22:51] We came with these gifts so that we could offer them to the world in our way. And I think it's important that we do that. And I really appreciate having the people that we do on this podcast, because I feel like. Almost every single one of them is doing that. It's like we never have someone on here who just works a regular job because I feel like those people Although they're probably doing exactly what they need to be doing they didn't take that chance. I feel like you Cheryl at some point in your life you took this it's a risk in my opinion. It's a risk to go out there and do alchemical healing. It really is, people don't just go and do that, you know?
[00:23:30] And maybe you could talk about that, a little bit. How you got to that point in your life where you said, Yeah, I have to do this and I'm not gonna walk a traditional path, cause I find that fascinating about people who do healing arts. That's really something that takes a lot of courage to do.
[00:23:47] So,
[00:23:47] Cheryl: yeah, well, I want to say to just to your point about kids, I have three kids, they're all teenagers, or I guess one's 21, 18, and almost 16. And I try to raise them differently than I was raised, try to get them to experience the world, like the sky's the limit. Go out and experience life, really do that.
[00:24:06] And so my oldest child actually is just finishing her university degree in Iceland. I never even thought of the possibility of living 100 kilometers, when I went to university. So, really encouraging our children to step into who they're supposed to be and giving them that space and supporting them through that.
[00:24:23] So I think that's really important, but also being a role model to that. And I think I've done that. And believe it or not, I actually worked in the defense industry. I worked for General Dynamics for gosh, 17 years. And I remember the very first day of my job, the very first day I drove to work, I actually killed a black cat, as I was driving.
[00:24:45] And I was like, I think this is an omen. Like I'm not sure, but, the problem that I was in, I had very little money and it paid really well. And I remember feeling really funny. Like it took a long time to actually settle into that place. But what I've come to known is that I was meant to be the light in that.
[00:25:02] It did teach me a lot of things that I use today and how I manage my business and different things like that. But I had signs, there was clear signs for me to leave. I was paving the way in certain way for women with children. So I was the first woman to go to an 80 percent work week. So that meant four days a week working in like a.
[00:25:22] Associate program manager job. And so I was kind of forcing things a little bit too. I was kind of making waves a bit, but I had clear signs that I was meant to leave and very physical. In 2014, I had to have emergency surgery. My appendix was leaking and my bowel wrapped around it. And so I nearly died from that.
[00:25:43] And I remember coming back from that surgery going, okay, I was, talking to the universe. Yes. I get it. I'll slow down. Oh, dot, dot, dot. And then I was right back at it. And so I'd had a few different injuries and then I had my concussion and it was like literally going to punch you in the head. So you are going to listen now and you are going to make the changes.
[00:26:00] So when I talk to people who come to me who are like, Oh, I think I'm not in the right place. I'm like, if you're really not in the right place, the universe is going to do something to help you shift. And it may not be super fun. For me, when I had my concussion, I remember , I wouldn't wish a concussion on anyone.
[00:26:21] It was the most debilitating time of my life. I lost everything. I couldn't be a mother. I couldn't work. I couldn't play the sports. I love to play, like everything was gone. I couldn't socialize. It was the most devastating time of my life. I really could only, sit in my bedroom quietly.
[00:26:36] And it was just such a painful time for me and I knew I would get down on my knees almost every day and ask God, or whoever source, why is this happening? why is this happening? and I got fairly clearly that I was supposed to leave my work, but the problem with that is. The ego gets in the way and says, well, how are you going to pay your bills?
[00:26:59] You have a mortgage. You got this and you know, dot, dot, dot. And, so that kept me anchored in. And it was, I think in a level two, alchemical healing weekend, I got clear guidance- let it go, quit. And I remember I was like, okay, Monday morning, I called them up and I quit. But I was still attached to the disability.
[00:27:19] So they're like, Oh, just so you know, you've quit, but you are still on disability. It was just this really interesting thing. When I went to Egypt, that was the severing of the tie. That was the true severing of the tie. And when I went to Edfu, I could really feel that push and pull of , okay, I want to be free.
[00:27:35] I want to explore and. Leave that work, but I was holding on to that security of that job and the disability and it was this push and pull that happened for me and I literally purged that all when I was in Egypt. So, it wasn't an easy process for me. And then, people in our world, if you've been working in a defense industry and, I used to play volleyball and kind of all the normal things people do to step out and tell people you're an alchemical healing practitioner, it took me a long time to come out of the spiritual closet.
[00:28:08] And even then, I can't have a conversations with my parents. My parents call me weird. And I've learned to not take that personally. I know that either they'll get me whether when they're on this earth plane, or as soon as they cross over, then they're going to completely understand. So, I don't take it personally, but I don't have the support of.
[00:28:28] My extended family, I'm grateful my husband's been there and he has 100 percent supported me. When I came home for my first training weekend, I said, okay, I got to buy a table. He's like, okay, perfect. I'm like, I got to build a room. Okay, perfect. And he has been the anchor behind me too. So, very divine with our partnership.
[00:28:47] He's really been there to be that solid foundation behind me too. So, that made it easier. It wasn't an easy transition, but I look back and it happened the most perfect way it could happen for me. And I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful for my concussion. Grateful for
[00:29:03] everything it taught me and everything it brought me because my life is so much fuller. If we just tell people to get the ego out of the way. There's so much magic that can happen when we trust and we surrender to that. So
[00:29:18] Tianna: do you think that the concussion was a sort of spiritual initiation?
[00:29:23] I think it was in the alchemical healing book. I think Nikki Scully talked about cancer being a type of shamanic initiation for her. And looking sometimes at these really difficult, challenging experiences in our life, again from that lens, oftentimes is so empowering.
[00:29:40] I was just curious, do you think that was a freak accident or do you think that was sort of a spiritually, guided event? I
[00:29:47] Cheryl: think it was a definitely spiritually guided event. Because I was playing a game called ringette, which is kind of like hockey. And I slipped on the ice, fell back.
[00:29:57] I barely hit my head but I almost felt like I kind of got pushed in a way. So I don't know. It wasn't that I felt like what happened to me wasn't that significant, but the results were severely significant. And I definitely believe it was an initiation. It was definitely all divinely guided and planned to slowly extricate me from what I was doing and lead me on the path.
[00:30:20] And I always say this too. I've seen miracles happen. I've seen people come on my table and something healed instantly, but my path wasn't like that. And if I had been healed instantly, I probably would have went back to work. There was a slow process of healing. And so I tried to tell people like, this could be part of your journey.
[00:30:38] There might be more for you to explore, more growth to happen before the healing finally takes full hold, right. Before it fully integrates and you've cleared it. I try to explain that to people because we can get all upset that things aren't clearing, but there's some other purpose and there's some other step or some other thing in the, that it needs to happen before it's complete, that cycle is complete, that alchemical cycle finishes.
[00:31:03] Tianna: I really resonate with that. I had to learn that too, that sometimes things aren't meant to heal right now and I didn't do anything wrong as the practitioner. And the client isn't doing anything wrong that it's not healing yet. There's a divine timing. There's a higher purpose that we might not be able to see now.
[00:31:20] And so there is a lot of that trust and surrender. Could you sort of walk us through , I think a lot of people probably are not familiar with. What happens just the process of what an alchemical healing session with you would be like?
[00:31:35] Cheryl: Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the first things that happens that people feel a call to come see me.
[00:31:41] And so they'll come see me and I always believe that the time that they come see me is really important too. So if you try to push it, the meeting together and the session will get canceled. It's really a divine timing for that. But it's basically, a client lays very comfortably on a table, fully clothed, nice blanket around them.
[00:32:00] And I just start taking them through the heart breath. So getting people in a really heart centered place, but also connecting them to both earth and sky. And from there, I scan the body. And so I'm asking the body for information. And so we've probably chatted just before that and set some intentions.
[00:32:19] As I'm scanning, asking for what is the root of whatever's coming up for them and then I just work very intuitively. It's a very intuitive session where I will receive information and I'm working with the client. So it becomes this like really beautiful dance. between the practitioner, the client and the spirit world.
[00:32:40] We're all working together. As a client is laying there, they might say, yes, I feel something in my foot. So I'll be guided to go down to their foot or they may have images or I might get messages that I share with them. It's really powerful in many different ways. And
[00:32:56] the session just unfolds organically and it really is a process of surrendering on the table and just trusting what comes through. I'm being called to give you an example. I had a woman recently who came in and she was suffering from lipiderma. So. Seemed very swollen and really carrying weight, unable to lose weight, but not like there's something wrong, like processing even sweat and everything else.
[00:33:22] So our body is retaining all this energy. And when we tapped in, well, she actually went back to a lifetime in Egypt where she was a concubine and she had multiple babies, but the babies were taken away from her. What we found was that this lifetime, it was like protection. And so with her condition, she couldn't get pregnant too.
[00:33:47] And it was like this protection so that wouldn't happen again in this lifetime. Giving her that information so that she knows that is valuable and helping her let it go now. And so I did the healing work to help her let it go. But that's kind of the interesting thing and not in my wildest dreams, what I have guessed that.
[00:34:04] That condition was related to this past life. It's fascinating. And so any number of things, come in when we're doing this work and asking to get to the root, it could be ancestral. Oftentimes I see people come in and they'll say, Oh, I have this right hip thing. And so does my grandma.
[00:34:20] And so does my mom. And so does , and I'm like, ding, ding, ding. Okay. What's going on with the family? What happened? Right? And so asking and clearing that ancestral line is something that we do too. Any number of beautiful, beautiful things can happen in there, but we're really trying to get to the root of what's happened or what's what. Emotions or something that's behind what's happening there.
[00:34:44] Tim: Do you have people come to you that maybe aren't having like physical ailments, but are having other problems with their life? Do you have people come to you for that stuff too, or?
[00:34:57] Cheryl: Yeah, really anything. There's no real limit. I mean, you can name a condition and there's probably many I've never dealt with, but I don't think it matters.
[00:35:08] So if you're depression or anxiety or low self confidence or even relationship problems. Any number of things people come to me for, and we can get to the root of what's that. Even some people I've found where they have difficult relationship with their partner. They've made of how to pass life with them.
[00:35:28] And it's a repeat or different things like that. So we have to let go of the past so they can let go of them in this lifetime and things like that.
[00:35:36] Tianna: And spiritual stuff. That was my intention when I had a session. I also want to point out, because when you described the session, you described it in person, which of course is really cool if you live in Canada.
[00:35:49] And we're here in Austin, Texas, and I was able to have a session with you virtually, which is just as effective. So I do want people to know that, that you can have these sessions virtually. And Cheryl's able to totally tap in and energetically spiritually work with you. And also that the classes that you teach in alchemical healing, also you offer the virtual option.
[00:36:11] And so people can be trained in this wherever they live.
[00:36:16] Cheryl: Yeah, the virtual, that's really come to life in the last, three, four years, which is kind of, I guess, a good thing from what's happened. And I'm so grateful for it. It's so potent. It's so potent. In some ways, it can be even more potent than, the only obstacle I see with it is just making sure that people have that space and time to
[00:36:37] not be interrupted and be able to receive fully. But other than that, it's an incredible way to connect and I've worked with people in Singapore and Iceland and BC and Austin, Texas, and it's been incredible to do that work online. And I'm grateful to now offer. What I would call hybrid alchemical healing teaching.
[00:36:59] My preference is to do it in person. I think if it's available people, it's great for us to see and be together, but it's a great option to get that teaching out to there. One of my missions is to teach all over the world and to really spread alchemical healing.
[00:37:13] So for those who are called to learn it.
[00:37:16] Tianna: So, are you saying that you would travel to a location if there are people that gathered and said, hey, can you come to Boston, Massachusetts and do a workshop there or
[00:37:26] Cheryl: yes, 100 percent and there's a possibility that there may be one coming up in Oregon, a level one coming this September at Nikki Scully.
[00:37:39] So it's not official. It's kind of just in the ethers and whether that happens or not. And that's with multiple teachers there. But yeah, absolutely. If there is a group of people that are super interested, then yeah, I will work with them to come to them and teach.
[00:37:54] Yeah, 100%.
[00:37:57] Tianna: Were you always on a spiritual
[00:37:59] Tianna: path? You mentioned that when you were working for the defense company system, whatever, you kind of spoke to the universe. But I wasn't quite sure,… before you had this big, literal knock you over the head experience to get on your spiritual practitioner path.
[00:38:17] Like, were you kind of a seeker or searcher or what your beliefs were before then?
[00:38:23] Cheryl: No, I was very intuitive. As I look back, I was intuitive, but not spiritual. And I would say never religious, but believing in something and knowing in something, but not really on that spiritual journey. So it really wasn't until going into the healing of my concussion that I really opened that up and really explore that.
[00:38:46] And I think, looking at certain people I believe that was kept hidden for me for whatever reason for protection reason until it was time and I think all of us will have that kind of a story of some come in and stay awake pretty rare, but there's the challenges with that too I've worked with clients that have been awake and ended up in the hospital in mental institutions because of their visions and things because it wasn't normal.
[00:39:14] But yeah, all of that kind of came alive, like really came to life in probably 2016, just really flourished over the last eight years and just keeps blossoming. I keep feeling I'm still on this evolution and this growth of learning and growing in this realm.
[00:39:31] Tim: What do your kids think about what you do?
[00:39:33] And do you think any of them will follow in your footsteps a little bit and do something in the spiritual?
[00:39:40] Cheryl: That's a really great question. I think they are accepting of me. I don't think they fully know. Each one of them has received healing from me in different ways and at different times.
[00:39:51] So they're definitely open to it. I have had visions of one particular child connecting and doing this work, but I don't want to preemptively, speak that she's on her own journey, but it's really interesting. I had an incident with my son about two years ago and our medical system is really interesting right now.
[00:40:12] And I. Really don't want to take my kids to emerge, but he cut his finger open and he came to me and he hasn't come to me for years for a healing session. This is a 16 year old boy and or teenager. And he said, mom, can you help me? I really don't want to go to the hospital. Can you help me?
[00:40:30] And I was like, okay, we'll work on you. So I started pouring energy in and I got that he needed stitches. And I was like, okay, I'll just, I'll keep ignoring it. I'll just keep sending energy into it. And what I got was I work a lot with animal, animal totems, animal guides, and what came in was spider energy, spider medicine and spider.
[00:40:49] I was able to get him to even feel and sense this, but spider came in and actually stitched his finger. And so after that, we were able to put a bandaid on it and it was fine. So I think like my kids get it and they'll come to me when they need it, but they definitely. I don't force it in any way.
[00:41:07] I talk about it here and there. They were making fun of me a couple of weeks ago. I took a psychopop course and I was telling him over the experience of removing entities from, a particular person at this workshop. And they started giggling. You should call your business exorcism and yoga or something crazy like that.
[00:41:25] They were making fun of me, but I think they get it to a certain extent. And if they ever decide that they want to know more that I will be there for them, but I'm not hiding it. I'm open with it. They know exactly know what I do, so it'll be interesting to see what happens for them.
[00:41:41] But I don't want to influence them, just help support them on their own journey. Each and every one of them.
[00:41:47] Tim: Oh, yeah, definitely.
[00:41:49] Tianna: Do you think that anyone can do alchemical healing or, you mentioned that you were very intuitive all of your life. and it is a very intuitive type of healing.
[00:42:00] So do you think that anyone can do it? Or do you think that maybe only people who are naturally intuitive would be drawn to it anyway or call to it? What are your thoughts about that?
[00:42:10] Cheryl: I think it's definitely a calling, but I do believe anyone can do it. I really do. And Fundamentally at the base of it, it's, channeling through the universal life force energy.
[00:42:22] And even if you just do that, even if you work with the basics of it, it's super powerful. And so some of the more advanced pieces of alchemical healing, like I mentioned earlier, sucking cure or soul retrieval, that type of thing, that might not be everybody's work, and that's okay. But, I believe everyone, anyone and everyone can do it.
[00:42:43] And I think it's really incredible when people come to the workshops. Let me just say this. When people come to the workshops and Tiana, maybe you can reiterate this if this feels right for you, but I believe these workshops are not only just teaching alchemical healing, but people go through an alchemical process as they come.
[00:43:00] It is a healing weekend. And with that, they leave with these skills that they can either use on themselves or help their family members. or go on to make a career of it. And so there's so many number of things you can do with it. And what I see is that it becomes a foundation. So whatever career people are in, say you're a counselor, people have this skill and then they kind of weave it in a little bit to what they do.
[00:43:26] People that work in the pet industry or working with pets and training pets, you can weave All of this in it's really beautiful. And so it becomes this foundation. So you can go ahead and do alchemical healing on its own, but it's just this beautiful modality that can weave in with anything, and it can be a very good compliment to other modalities.
[00:43:48] Like acupuncture, Reiki, you name it, there's so many beautiful energy healing modalities out there that is, it's an incredible thing to add. It's just more tools in your tool chest and some further deeper initiations that can help you with the intuitiveness that help you connect more. So that's the way I see alchemical healing.
[00:44:08] And one of the things that is interesting as a teacher. And makes it somewhat challenging at time is that 100 percent I can teach it. But when we're dealing with people in different various stages of an alchemical cycle as they're attending, that makes it interesting as well. So there's like, the teaching part of the easy, it's helping people through where they're at and how they're showing up.
[00:44:30] Right. And it's because this course and this work will bring up that trauma or will bring up what's coming forward. So even say you signed up today and the course is three weeks from now, things might start getting stirred up for you. And the closer you get to the workshop, things are already moving or showing up.
[00:44:48] So it's a super powerful, super powerful workshop. And just setting that intention to take it starts to bring things alive in people.
[00:44:57] Tianna: Yeah, I can definitely attest to that, that one, there was so much energy during the whole training and two, a lot of people were going through major healing and transformation during the course , and then also there's these initiations that are part of it and it's very powerful and so yeah.
[00:45:16] I could see people taking the training, not necessarily to become a practitioner, but to go through that alchemical process themselves and to get a lot of healing and transformation through that.
[00:45:27] Cheryl: Yeah, 100%. We had one person within that group, , this was back in February. That almost left halfway through, but it's because things got stirred up.
[00:45:37] So I was gently bringing them back in and going, okay, let's do this. And then she ended up being the demo and we helped her through it. We helped her through that healing that was coming up for her. So, Yeah, it's a very power. It's just so interesting. I find this work fascinating. There's never a dull moment and no day is like the next, which makes it amazing.
[00:45:58] Yeah.
[00:45:59] Tianna: Is there anything else that you're up to that we haven't touched on that you'd really like our listeners to know about?
[00:46:05] Cheryl: Oh my goodness. There's so many beautiful things going on. And so I live, In just north of Grand Bend, Ontario, so it's a couple, two hours south of Toronto in Ontario, Canada, and we bought this beautiful 26 wooded acre of property, and so I have this beautiful healing center that I'm in, but it's temporary, and I'm building a brand new healing center in an old barn, and so that's in process at the moment, and I have visions of Allopathic medicine and holistic medicine kind of coming together and being kind of a center for that.
[00:46:38] So that's one of my major projects. My first international retreat is in Sedona this fall in October. And so I'm in the process of preparing for that. And in amongst it, I'm leaving for Egypt on June 3rd. And that is to do some reconnaissance and get things set for taking people there in November of 2025.
[00:46:59] And so I'm going back to re experience Egypt. And kind of lay that foundation for guiding people and leading people there. So lots of beautiful things. There's many more things going on. I'm teaching alchemical level two in a couple weeks. My next official alchemical level one is in March of 2025.
[00:47:18] I usually run a level one and level two and level three per year. That's kind of the pace that I've gone. And so if I get more demand, then I will, would do more. So if people are interested in that, then that's, but like I said, there may be an opportunity this fall to go actually to Nikki Scully, this place in Oregon.
[00:47:35] We'll see if that's going to manifest and come to fruition. So yeah, lots of beautiful things. I'm a very busy woman at the moment, which is good. Very fulfilling. Yeah.
[00:47:45] Tianna: Fantastic.
[00:47:45] Tim: Yeah, sounds like you got a lot of exciting things going on. So can you please , let our listeners know where they can find you online and learn more about you?
[00:47:57] Cheryl: Yeah, 100%. So my website is willowroots. net, and I'm on Facebook and Instagram at Cheryl Arts, and that's A A R T S with a double A, so you can find me there. And I post lots, I post my events on there, but all of my core information is on my website, so lots of information about alchemical healing there.
[00:48:19] For the listeners and lots of great events coming up.
[00:48:23] Tim: Perfect. Thank you.
[00:48:24] Tianna: Oh, yeah. Thanks so much for sharing all of your wisdom with our listeners today.
[00:48:30] Cheryl: Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's like I said, I made a commitment to Thoth and in this work , to really share alchemical healing. So it's great when, , others are interested and I can share this with more people.
[00:48:42] So I'm super grateful. So thank you, Tim. Thank you, Tianna.
[00:48:46] Tianna: Coming out of your spiritual closet, even more. Yes. Opportunities too. Yeah. Great.
[00:48:53] Tim: Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah.