Nancy Thames, timefordisclosure.com
Is humanity on the brink of Disclosure? 👽 In this eye-opening conversation, Nancy Thames shares her personal story of lifelong contact with interdimensional beings & extraterrestrials. 🛸 We discuss the concept of disclosure, humanity's connection with these beings & the importance of bringing this information to light. As a child, Nancy experienced face-to-face encounters without fear, but societal pressures later led her to suppress her experiences. Now, she advocates for open discussion & understanding of these beings & their positive role in Earth’s ascension. Nancy emphasizes, “Humanity is the disclosure.”
Highlights:
Nancy's Early Experiences with Extraterrestrials
Challenges of Growing Up with Extraterrestrial Contact
Understanding Interdimensional Beings and Human Connection
What’s the Role of Humanity in the Cosmic Plan?
Why does being a contactee often run in the family?
Extraterrestrial Influence on Human Development
The Essence of Earth and Humanity's Future
Reimagining the Human Experience
The Role of AI and Technology
Extraterrestrial Agreements
Understanding Fear & Frequency Exchange
The Evolution of Human Consciousness
Navigating Ascension and Energetic Shifts
Thanks again to my former co-host Tim 💙 & what’s next 👁 for this podcast
NANCY THAMES, a former Department of Defense employee & a lifelong Contactee of Inter Dimensional extraterrestrial beings, has emerged as a significant voice in the realm of alien disclosure & spiritual awakening. She’s come to the decisive conclusion: it is Time for Disclosure. Her dedication to this cosmic narrative propelled her to create timefordisclosure.com, a platform advocating for open dialogue about extraterrestrial interactions and the greater implications for humanity. Check out her Time For Disclosure Facebook group.
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. She helps Lightworkers step into their Soul Destiny. 💖 Her book “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self” is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
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TRANSCRIPT
[00:00:00] Tianna: I'm so excited to talk to you about disclosure, for people listening who've never heard of disclosure. And probably Nancy can give a better, definition of this, but I want to say it's something like Humanity's connection with extraterrestrials and it's time for all of that information to come forward.
[00:00:21] But before we jump into that, I'd really love to hear your personal story about how you came to be an advocate for this and what your experiences have been.
[00:00:32] Nancy: Yes, well, I'm a lifelong contactee with interdimensional beings and extraterrestrials and this has been occurring all my life. It's not anything that started later in my life.
[00:00:43] It pretty much I now know started from my very birth and even before that, but my first conscious memories. Are from around 2 to 3, 3, more, more or less 3 years old. And that's where I have remember having physical face to face contact and they would come into my room. And, you know, at that particular time, I was not scared.
[00:01:05] It was not scary. It was fun. , they made it creative. They could also change the way that I perceive that they look if my mother had been reading me a storybook and if they saw those images in my mind because they're telepathic, they could pull those and they could recreate like different things from a storybook because they always wanted me to be comfortable and not to be afraid.
[00:01:30] And, , I was perfectly fine with it until I got older, and then, when I would bring it up to my mother and father, they would say, at first, when I was little, they would say, what an imagination, what a dream , and go back to bed, that kind of thing, but then as I got older. It wasn't so cute and funny anymore and they were like you cannot talk about these kind of things, you cannot talk about this at Girl Scouts, at school, churches, to relatives, and they explained to me that people were considered either having a mental disorder or either it was considered demonic.
[00:02:07] I grew up in Tennessee, right in the middle of the Bible Belt. And these things were not topics that you could bring up around anybody. It was considered as bad as talking about the devil and you would be getting all kinds of trouble. So, I learned at a very young age. To suppress what was going on with me, because.
[00:02:28] Nobody wanted to talk about these things. Nobody wanted to listen. Nobody wanted to believe and they just really distracted me from talking about it. We would have topics about life, and my family always loved talking about there being life out there, but it was different to talk about them.
[00:02:46] Coming into your room and walking around that part. They didn't want it. They didn't want to go into all that
[00:02:52] Tianna: When you're growing up and you're getting these messages From family or community and you're still impressionable. Did that ever make you question your own sanity or
[00:03:02] did you ever question it or did you always have a strong, , like, okay They don't want me to talk about it, but I know this is true I
[00:03:08] Nancy: knew it was true. And I also had support from the extraterrestrials and interdimensionals. , they kind of work. They understand humans a lot better than we'll ever understand them.
[00:03:20] So they helped me with this. But what really, , changed or got me to start feeling fearful was. The negative things that I was hearing, what people had written in books, , how Hollywood had portrayed it in movies. So, that made me not question my sanity, but question, is this okay? , what is happening to me?
[00:03:42] What is the meaning? What is the purpose? , am I understanding this right? Because I had never had any negative experience. Occurrences or experiences. So, as I got older, and I did start having anxiety, I've always had the ability to feel a frequency change in my body before they manifest in the room.
[00:04:02] It got to the point, whether then being excited about. An interaction, it was more of a anxiety and I would pull the covers up over my head and of course that didn't help. But at the time, that's all I knew to do and I'll never forget. I could never understand to as I got older. Is their means of how they would take me from my room?
[00:04:25] Either I would be sitting in a chair, I sleep in my bed and wake up or sitting in a chair wherever I was, there was three grays that always came for me and they were not gray. This female, she was a female. I could always know she was a female by her frequency and she was reddish brown and she would take a handheld device and run it up and down from head to toe, toe to head, back and forth.
[00:04:52] And at some point, my body would start to elevate off or lift off the bed, or if I was in the chair, I would start to float. Or standing on the ground, I would start to float up off the ground, and she would be holding my hand, and then she would guide me through either the ceiling, or through a window, or through a door.
[00:05:11] And this was the part that really threw me for a loop, because here I am, junior high, going into high school, and I've had all the math and the science and everything that everybody else has had, and this was not something that human beings could physically do. This was very confusing to me, and that made me question the reality that we're in, question so many different things.
[00:05:36] And I can remember going up through the ceiling and then being in the attic and looking around and seeing , boxes and storage that my family had put up, but the Christmas decorations, , our attics growing up were never finished. They were just like, , raw with the insulation and hardly no floor.
[00:05:55] So I could tell it was, , this was real. This was very real. And when I would look down, my bed was empty. And I can remember looking at her and saying, how are you doing this? And she would never answer me at the time. And so, but now I know the continued years of being with them that they were taking my frequency.
[00:06:17] Humans all have a frequency. All of us have a frequency, but our frequency is very low compared to extraterrestrials or inner dimensionals because they are in a higher realm, a higher dimension. And their frequency is much stronger than ours. So what she was doing was changing my frequency to match hers.
[00:06:37] And that's how I was able to go through it and stuff. So, even when they told me that and stuff, I'm like, okay, I guess I understand, but I'm not a physicist. I'm not a scientist, you know, there was parts of it that I just, , I believed it because she told me, or they told me that, but, there was no way I really knew these things on my own.
[00:06:58] So, this all continued throughout my life and had many experiences. And another thing that was profound was the fact that I saw. My 2 sons being taken for their 1st time or that I know of for their 1st time and I felt a frequency change and woke up and 3 greys manifested in a hotel room where we were staying in Florida, Key West.
[00:07:22] And one approached me, and these were not the same grays that come for me, these were different, these were a little short, and they were gray in color, and they had very high collars, and long road zone, and one approached me, and nudged me down, and telepathically told me, this is not about you. And so when I was down, I was still fully conscious, but I couldn't he put me in a sleep paralysis.
[00:07:49] I could not speak and I could not move. And so literally, I'll watch them move towards my children, get them out of bed and start to proceed out. And then they disappeared right in front of me. And then I blacked out and, of course, the next morning, first thing I did was look and they were safe and sound in their bed and I had asked them if they remembered or had any occurrence that they wanted to talk about.
[00:08:13] And they said, no. So, , I was angry, upset, very, very frustrated. And, , it's 1 thing for it to happen to me and for me to accept that. But now we're talking about my kids and this made it a whole difference.
[00:08:32] So I ended up, we , finished up our little vacation and when I headed back home, when I got home, I meditated and I asked them to give me answers, answer my questions. Why me? Why my family? What is the purpose? What is the meaning? What is this all about? And I'm not a person that claims that I can summon them or call them down or anything like that.
[00:08:54] I just simply meditated and asked for them to come and help me. And I did ask for face to face, and they did come on their own time. And it was the three grays came again. And the female gray took me on a craft in front of what she called or what I perceived at the time were elders. I really can't remember if she told me they were elders.
[00:09:17] Or if that's just what my mind came up with at that time, so I was before a group of different beings of different races, and they were all interdimensionals about 8 foot tall. And I proceeded, she presented me, and I asked them why this was happening to me, and they explained to me that I had made an agreement prior to my birth of being a human being.
[00:09:43] To be a part of this evolutionary process that humans will be going through and that they're in the agreement. It was established that I would not remember any of this or my past, but they would be coming to see me throughout my life to get me prepared for this big event that humanity is going through.
[00:10:05] So basically, that's what has happened all my life. They have been coming in and getting me prepared and working with me and helping me to reach higher spiritual growth. And reach different levels of different frequencies and different levels of consciousness. They even two years ago, gifted me a kundalini awakening, which scared me to death.
[00:10:30] I didn't know what it was. I don't research things like this, and it scared me. And to be honest with you, I didn't know if maybe I had died or what had happened. But, and it took me a month to even talk about it to people, and I finally did with my oldest son, and he had the same thing that had happened to him, only it was different.
[00:10:52] Mine was in my sleep, and it woke me up. For him, he was out on a camping trip. I can and was sitting down by a tree and was kind of like trying to nap, take a quick nap and it, and it hit him. So, I now know after being with them since then, several, many, many times, they were saying, they told me that they had to open my subconscious up into my human consciousness, because.
[00:11:20] The downloads that they were giving me. I kept questioning it. , it was like I wouldn't accept. I kept saying, I knew I would get information, but I would say, where did that come from? I don't understand, , did I just think this or is this a download? So, to speed it up for me, I guess.
[00:11:38] They gave me a kundalini awakening, and my son has the same experiences and interactions, the face to face. And he gets lots of downloads where I have more physical interactions with him. I think I am more of a hands on type person to really understand and get what they're trying to teach me. And for him, he does okay with just downloads.
[00:12:01] , he doesn't question it or question it. He just does better with it and we all comprehend things differently.
[00:12:08] Tianna: I have a number of questions from that. Yeah. So one of the things is, , well, first of all, I wanted to ask, cause you said extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, and I wanted to know what are the definitions of each of those?
[00:12:22] What's the difference between that?
[00:12:24] Nancy: Our world, our society has taught us that there are two different things. In my opinion, they're all the same. They're all interdimensional. We think, because we're human, we think that we have to put a name and label everything. In their reality, they do not go by the names that we call them.
[00:12:44] There's over 60 different races of grays. We only know of one race, and they always show it as a gray, gray color, a little, no clothes on little guy. And there's many, many different races. So. What I've learned, and what they have taught me is that there's many different races, and they do not put names and label things.
[00:13:05] And so when I asked him, where are you from? What they say to me is that there is not a human word from where we are from. And if we gave you 1. You would not be able to see it because in our 3D realm, our visual range is what's keeping us from seeing them in our own skies and in our own solar system, because we're in a 3D realm, which we are moving out of, , through our ascension and plus we're going through an evolutionary stage.
[00:13:34] But anyway, . So for right now, we will get glimpse of them, but they're not hiding. They're everywhere in our skies. And there are so we just can't see it. And so they've taught me that just because we can't say things there is life going on all around us. And they opened up visions to me, when they got my son and I to go to Mexico to meet an indigenous tribe and to walk out into the forest.
[00:14:02] And they took me, not my son, they never take my son and I at the same time, because we will not focus on the lessons to be learned. We're too worried about how each other feels and what each other's thinking. And they will not let us have our experiences together. We figured that out too. And they gave me a test to prove to me that I would fail.
[00:14:23] And I did fail because I was constantly watching to see how he felt. So I'm not, maybe at some point I'll get better. But right now, I'm not so they took me out. It was in a cabin. They took me out and opened up a vision and I could see trees talking to each other, plants and animals, all these living creatures talking to each other, communicating and, , so.
[00:14:48] That was a big eye opening experience for me, because, we love plants, but we don't understand that they're living conscious beings. We don't understand our connections, and that's why they wanted me to meet this indigenous tribe. And my son went out and spent a day hiking in the woods with them to learn about, , their appreciation of nature and how they identify with it.
[00:15:12] So, we basically. We love our plants and trees, but we abuse so many things, and that needs to change because when we were created and everything our planet was created. We are all connected. We are all meant to work together as one and in harmony, and we have abused our privileges. We mistreat our planet Earth, mistreat our environment, our oceans, our seas, our trees, our jungles, our woods, a tree, we cut down a whole tree and just toss it aside like it means nothing, which it's there for us to use that we should only take what we need.
[00:15:52] We should never. End a whole cycle of life on any plant or any being, unless it's absolutely necessary. So we are connected and they wanted us to help humanity to remember our connections. Because until we learn to appreciate all living things on our planet, Until we do this, we're always going to have mishaps on this planet.
[00:16:16] But when we all come together as one and work together in unity, beautiful things will always happen. And our planet will be so thankful and our trees and plants and animals will be so thankful that human beings have finally awakened and realize our connections because they're basically all waiting on us with the interdimensionals and extraterrestrials.
[00:16:37] They're waiting for us to understand who we are and our connections.
[00:16:42] Tianna: Yeah, that's such a great message. I want to ask a few other questions you often hear about, experiencers or contactees that it does seem to run in the same family. And I was curious if if you know if that has anything to do with like a certain maybe, DNA patterns, maybe there's certain bodies that are better equipped for it, or is it more like because you had your experiences, then you can show up for your son , or maybe it's a bit of both.
[00:17:12] I was just curious why that is, that it seems to run in certain
[00:17:14] Nancy: lineages. At the same time that I questioned why my children and all that, they opened up a vision because when they told me that I had made a decision to be here, I was like, shaking my head in confusion and they opened up a blue orb. They opened up an orb and they told me to always choose the color blue.
[00:17:36] And told me to always,, take a lot of herbs , and to, , try to eat more organic, all these different things. And then they also told me I was an interdimensional being before I came to Earth. And that's why I chose to be here, was to come and help Earth. And my children were, they are souls from, we are incarnates from that realm.
[00:18:00] So we're in a, we're in a, Interplanetary reincarnated souls and we're here for this event. None of us have been on earth before and we're here. Yeah, but we're here for this and we come from a mother ship that is of many different races. All different races and interdimensional that work together and travel throughout galaxies and different places looking for beings that are on the verge of Ascension.
[00:18:33] And that's why they are all here now in great numbers surrounding our planet, and they are putting in frequencies of love, unity, peace, all these things. And they're hoping, hoping that humanity. We'll step up to the plate and start work at trying to be better human beings. And it has to start with in each of us.
[00:18:57] It's not something that anybody can come down here and fix for us. It's something that starts within. And when we start learning who we are within and learning to understand. , the new ways of thinking need to occur so that our human species can continue on because we're in a negative 3D realm right now.
[00:19:21] This is where all negativity, evil, and wars can occur. And there are dark human forces that would like to keep us from ever raising our consciousness and leaving this level because. They are in full control of us and manipulate us around like little puppets and keep us dependent upon fossil fuels, pharmaceutical drugs, all this negative news and stuff on the media and so forth.
[00:19:49] All these things were done intentionally, and this has been going on for eons to keep humanity separated because they've always known once we reach a higher level of consciousness, And we all come together as one. We're unstoppable. They'll never be able to control and manipulate us again. So this has been going on for eons.
[00:20:12] It all started way back separation of languages, separation of religions, racism, all these big, terrible things has been done. To keep humans separated to keep us from coming together and unifying always making us live in fear, making us doubt each other or feel negative feelings towards each other. Our society has pulled us into all that.
[00:20:38] But now we're We are reaching a pivotal moment to where we can have choices. We can have choices and learn. I'm not saying that every, every, there's lots of things we've done wrong, but we cannot change the past. What this means is that we use our new intelligence and be better, learn from our past mistakes.
[00:21:02] And make sure we never behave this way again and work towards being a better set being a new generation. It is the stepping stones for the future of humanity. So this is big. This is pivotal. This is the biggest thing that's happened since our creation. And the extraterrestrials and interdimensionals have been working on this for a very, very long time and from the visions they showed me, this is going to happen, but I can't tell you exactly when or what happens in between all this.
[00:21:36] A lot of it depends on Us human beings and how receptive we are to these new changes in new understandings and awareness that we're going to experience. Yeah.
[00:21:47] Tianna: Yeah, absolutely. And so much of it like you're saying is , as we raise our own frequency, then, , when we get to higher states of frequency, it's higher states of consciousness.
[00:21:57] And then we remember our oneness. And then why would we harm when it's part of us, right? Whether that's. the earth or animals or other humans. We're all
[00:22:08] Nancy: part. We're all connected. Every single one of us, including the universe, including extraterrestrials and interdimensionals, we're all one. So whatever we do on this planet that's harmful, it will ripple out into the universe and affect them.
[00:22:24] That's why They in their reality and their higher realms, there is no negativity. There is no wars. There is no evil and the way they showed it to me. We are going up a DNA ladder just as they did a billions of years ago. They are billions of years ahead of us and evolution. And as we go up this ladder, negative aspects that we have been programmed to do in our past, will start to fall off and we will realize.
[00:22:54] It no longer serves humanity, and we will never be able to survive in the long run with these negative, evil ways. It is just a matter of evolution that we learn this does not serve us. Wars get us nowhere. Being ugly to other people, not understanding that we are all one, gets us nowhere. So, they tell me to be patient and let evolution do its job, but that doesn't mean that we don't do our part by working on ourselves.
[00:23:27] Tianna: Yeah. , I've heard different, , ideas about how, , the human, population was seeded by different, , some say that we're all sort of star beings and that there are, all of these different, Extraterrestrial races that, , contribute to, our humanity.
[00:23:45] Did they share anything about humans, , ,galacticheritage or yeah, what do they have?
[00:23:53] Nancy: They do not claim. Well, first of all, they are not gods and they are not angels. And they do not claim to be, and they do not claim to be the total creator of all of us. What , their claims are that they played a part.
[00:24:09] in our creation with many other races, and they all believe in a creator source, they all have souls. I mean, I was a soul that came here, and now in human form so they all have souls. And they all believe in a creator source. So they played a role just like they played a role in the creation of our planet Earth and all living creatures on it.
[00:24:35] Many races and we're a combination. Junk DNA is. Our cosmic DNA are celestial or extraterrestrial, whatever you want to call it activated
[00:24:47] Tianna: in some people are most human. Yeah.
[00:24:49] Nancy: Yeah. But I think what's happening is, is that and plus these evil forces and I'm just going to call them evil force. It's human forces have intentionally kept our pineal glands
[00:25:03] shrunk down in order to manipulate and control us, and it's also a way that they control our population because we die at a young age, but when we were created, everything we ever needed to help us. Stay healthy, live long and strong was put here in some medicinal form, whether it plant salt water, whatever it is here.
[00:25:28] It was placed here. So there's tons of technology that these elites are sitting on and keeping it from humanity because they cannot make money off of healthy, intelligent human beings. And we've never been free, even though we don't realize it. We've been controlled and manipulated and our lives can change.
[00:25:53] We can live longer lives. We should have no poverty. We should have no diseases. These things will change for us in the interdimensionals and extraterrestrials could not come down here and fix everything for us because we are free. We have to get ourself out of this negative realm. And the reason why they can't is because, just like I made a choice to come to Earth and be here, all of us, whether we remembered or not, chose to be here on Earth at this particular time.
[00:26:25] It's unfortunate that when we get here, and mine was too, was erased when I got here, they opened my eyes and showed me visions and helped me to remember who I am. Now we're at a point where all humans have the potential to do this very same thing with this new awareness and awakening higher consciousness, higher intelligence.
[00:26:48] We're all going to be learning that way and that's why they're teaching me to teach others. Look within. Remember who you are, what your sole purpose here. Did you come here just to play in a manipulation game and work nine to five and die at a young age? Or did you come here knowing what was happening here on earth and you're here to be a part of this change?
[00:27:11] And I think most of us came here to be a part of this change, and that's why I say. Human beings. Humanity. We are the disclosure. Extraterrestrials have always been here. Always. If we go back, there's plenty, plenty. Researchers have found where there's caves with pictures of them, there's biblical drawings, et cetera, all this information.
[00:27:34] It's been right in front of us, but we were not ready to accept it. I mean, not some of us have, but you know what I'm saying, the majority of people. So now we're going through this evolutionary process because it has to happen for humans to be able to. Continue on and become better human beings because if we stay at the level that we're in right now, where we could possibly destroy ourselves completely or pretty badly.
[00:28:05] And I know extraterrestrials interdimensionals won't let us destroy our whole planet earth or all the living creatures on it because they're innocent bystanders. But I do know that if we don't get our act together, something bad could happen and it might have to occur to . Wake the rest of the world up, and I'm hoping that we don't have to do that.
[00:28:27] And they're hoping that that doesn't have to occur. That's nothing that they would do. That's something that humans would do to themselves. , people's had this fear of a third world war. We can prevent this from happening.
[00:28:39] Tianna: Absolutely. And I want to go back. Well, this is just random, but .
[00:28:45] We're talking big, but then something small you said was, , they had told you, , like taking herbs, which totally makes sense to me when you said the color blue. And I was like, what is it about? Tell me about the color blue. , is that true for you because of your, , star being type, or is that true for everyone
[00:29:01] Nancy: that the color blue is?
[00:29:03] I don't pretend to know everything. I know that all my life, they've told me always choose blue. And for me, , they have given me blue orbs. And to me, if I'm thinking right now with my, I try to use a human perception and also try to think from an extraterrestrial view. I look, I think that is the essence of Earth.
[00:29:25] We are earthlings. We are earth. That is our essence, and they would always have me present me in front of different races. Reptilians, for one. They would put me in front of different races, and I would gift them a blue orb. And I think I'm gifting them the essence of humanity, the essence of earth. We are worth them taking an interest and we are worth, their love and their devotion towards us.
[00:29:52] So, not only am I their eyes to see what it's like to be a human being, , I've experienced all these different things, even work for the Department of Defense for a period of time. , so through me, they know what it's truly like to see , the downfalls of being a human, because I've had my struggles and, going through everything that human beings can go through just about but also, , they use me, and I represent earth to other races, because.
[00:30:22] I think we're beautiful. Our planet's beautiful. We have everything in the world to fight for for this planet and for our futures, not only for ourselves, but our, grandchildren's children, et cetera, et cetera. And I think that the human experience. And they've showed me visions of what the human experience should be like.
[00:30:43] It should not be as it is now working 9 to
[00:30:47] Tianna: 5.
[00:30:48] Nancy: By the time people retire, they're usually too sickly to even enjoy their retirement. And many die at a very young age. These things can change. We can make the human experience better. To where we can enjoy every aspect of it. It shouldn't be a burden to be alive on this planet.
[00:31:08] And they've showed me where we can take a technology and it will not take away all the jobs for humans. It will create new types of jobs. And none of these things can happen overnight. But we can use AI to manufacture all the things that we need so that we don't have to focus on materialistic money making ways.
[00:31:33] We will learn to have jobs that we no longer call jobs. We'll call them service to self, service to family, service to community. And we'll work less hours in doing things that we love to do. And our focus will be more on our families and on our presence here on earth enjoying it, , so we've got a lot of changes ahead of us.
[00:31:56] And none of this can happen overnight. And I know that. And I think they certainly know that. But we have to start somewhere. And the time is now.
[00:32:05] Tianna: Yeah, none of it can happen overnight. And yet also, we're in a time of massive change where things. can shift. And , what we thought, , we didn't think all of this was possible.
[00:32:15] And I think in our lifetime, we've seen so much shift and change. And so I also hold the intention that it is possible for a lot of this to really shift, , like you said, , I think that there's technologies like free energy and stuff like this that have been suppressed that, , if that were to come, Out to light it could totally shift the way that we are existing in a better way for the planet and in a better way for humans.
[00:32:40] I want to go back to you used an expression a couple times like the evil human forces or something like this, which I absolutely do agree. I believe that , there's good and evil on the planet , and that there is a way to learn and grow through that polarity and that contrast versus being afraid of it, but I wanted to ask about, extraterrestrials in the same way that there are humans that embody light and there's humans that embody shadow. And, , I know your experiences have been very positive, but, , is it, To your understanding that maybe that there are maybe mostly positive extraterrestrial races, but maybe some just like there are some not good humans.
[00:33:21] There are some not good extraterrestrial races as well that have interfered with
[00:33:27] Nancy: us. No, I can explain for I can give you an example. For example, the grays, that supposedly, which I don't know everything about it, but the grays make an agreement with government in exchange for technology. Okay, from the extraterrestrial perspective, they look down here at Earth, grays, every single race of grays all have, in that race, they all have a specific purpose.
[00:33:56] Say, for example, they were probably genetic scientists. Okay. So for them, They decide they would do genetic work. Okay. And they make an agreement with the government. And I'm not saying this did occur, but I'm saying that's what the stories and theories are. Okay. So, in their eyes, they look down at us. We go out fishing, we go out hunting, we go out tagging animals, even for in our oceans and on coral reefs and things we go out tag animals, take specimens.
[00:34:27] And do these things. For research, so from their perspective, they were doing nothing no different than what we were already doing here on earth. and they were here doing something that people at that particular time did not understand and saw it as bad. Because for me, and just like anybody else that's truthful with you, it is not what they look like, that brings the fear.
[00:34:56] It is the frequency exchange between a human being in an extraterrestrial or in a dimensional. The frequency exchange is overwhelming. It is a combination of extreme fear and extreme euphoria. And our brains do not know what to do with this. And we flip out. Our brain sees it as a threat. It's all we know to do.
[00:35:22] So when this occurs, what they do, they are telepathic. Whatever we feel, they can feel it ten times the amount. This is not feelings that they have in their reality. They do not understand sadness, anxiety, fear, anger. Those things don't exist in their reality. So, when they feel that from a human being, they do not like that feeling.
[00:35:46] It's very confusing to them. So they black people out and put you in a trance like state or black you out. And in a lot of cases, you're fully functional. You move around and you go through the whole experience. But the problem is, when you get back, you don't remember it, and that's why people have missing time or fragmented memories, because that extreme fear was so overwhelming, they blacked them out.
[00:36:13] So, when we wake up, our brain still remembers that fear. Your brain will try to fill in the missing time, the missing bits. And unfortunately, it will use whatever our programming is, whatever our influences are, and that is what we think we experienced. So, it is real. People feel like they've been this, that, and the other, probed.
[00:36:41] They do not have probes on their ship. They are a billion years ahead of us in evolution. They use their consciousness to do their surgeries. They use their consciousness to fly their crafts. Their crafts are living, conscious beings. These stories of people talking about them taking their sperm, taking their eggs.
[00:36:59] Yes, , it was real to them. Yes, that's the way they perceived it. But there's much higher ways of doing this. Even now, we can take the DNA from a piece of, , an ant in an amber and retrieve the DNA and recreate things. So, a lot of it has to do with our perception at the time of these occurrences, and our awareness and intellectual level, and the fact that we have been programmed since our birth, has influenced us to think a lot of negative things.
[00:37:33] And a lot of people will tell you, just like I have, I've experienced extreme, extreme fear and negativity, and they would put me, black me out, but I had to learn to be able to have a more conscious experience. I had to fight the fear. I had to face my fears. I had to push into it. Otherwise, I'd never get to experience the whole experience fully conscious.
[00:37:59] And that is exactly what it is. And I had to learn these things the hard way, just like everybody else, but I was persistent and they knew I wanted to face my fears. And I still have to work on it because when you feel that feeling, even though you've done it before, it's just, , there's nothing else in the world to explain it, to compare it to.
[00:38:23] I have to remind myself. I'm not scared. My body just thinks I'm scared. I can do this and I've got to push through it. And then it ends up being the most beautiful experience. You could ever have in your whole life. There's nothing to compare. It's almost divine or heavenly. It's beautiful.
[00:38:45] Tianna: So when you were younger, you wouldn't remember, maybe you might remember the lifting out of your body, but then not remember the rest.
[00:38:54] But then now as you've raised your consciousness,
[00:38:58] Nancy: when I was young, I had no fears. It's beautiful. It was later, because of the world, the influences of watching what I saw on TV, what other people were saying with those influences, I automatically, when I felt that frequency change, I was in fear.
[00:39:16] So, depending on, , I may be conscious for a good bit of it, but the minute that I would reach a certain point of anxiety, that was it. They'll black you out. And I, can't tell you how many times I get mad at myself because it seems very stupid, but it's a very hard thing to do. This is not something that we understand or that our brain faces.
[00:39:41] On a day to day course, , it is not easy and , if you'd asked me 20 years ago, what I felt about this, I would have always said I love them. They're my family, but I would have been lying. If I said I wasn't scared now, I'm not scared, but that does jump in my mind sometimes and I have to fight it.
[00:40:02] Yeah.
[00:40:03] Tianna: Yeah. It reminds me of when I used to have more out of body experiences and I always wanted to have the out of body experiences, but then when I started to leave my body, there'd be like this moment where I might get afraid and then that would bring me back to my body and I'd be like, Oh, , no, I really wanted to have that experience.
[00:40:19] You know how
[00:40:20] Nancy: when you're asleep and you feel like you're falling off the bed sometimes, and then you're awake, it's kind of, , it's like. I don't know. It is frustrating because it's a beautiful thing, but it takes a lot of getting used to. It takes a lot of inner work.
[00:40:36] Tianna: How often, I'm sure it's not like on a schedule or anything, but around how often do you have these experiences nowadays?
[00:40:44] Nancy: I have them a lot. If they're not physical, like me going with them and then whatever, it is always in dream state. That's one way that they can reach people is through our dream state, and it's the best way because we have less boundaries built up. , humans have all these boundaries, all these fears and negative things,
[00:41:05] so, They're constantly sometimes it feels like my dream state is just as active or more active than my everyday life. It's really strange. And my son is the same way. So, and we are constantly getting downloads , but we do still have face to face and I never know when it's going to occur. Never.
[00:41:26] It's just I know before they. Show up in a room or something, but I don't know, like, months or a month or days ahead of time or anything like that.
[00:41:36] Tianna: So what might be like the highest best way for this to unfold as far as with disclosure, would it be just that more people start to realize and accept and don't have any fear about it, but Recognize that we're meant to raise our consciousness and move beyond polarization and see the oneness.
[00:41:59] And that, of course, there's other life besides earth. It doesn't make sense otherwise. And that would be just something that would gradually and naturally become accepted truth. Or how do you see it? It's
[00:42:12] Nancy: part of our evolution. It is part of our process and it needs to happen now because our technology is so powerful and strong, if used unwisely, we could do some very destroyed, , some terrible, terrible things.
[00:42:28] And these things do not need to occur, , so it has to happen and it is happening. And the best thing we can do is accept change, , and what we once thought was fearful or what we once thought was negative or demonic. We have to understand that at the period of times that these things got labeled.
[00:42:51] They were going with their knowledge at the time, and their perception. We are in an ever changing world now. Our world is changing very, very fast, like you said you've noticed. And everybody has to know that our world is changing tremendously, and we have to change with it. And the old ways that we used to live, there's nothing wrong with that, sure.
[00:43:16] A lot of it was wrong, sure. We made a lot of mistakes. But those are the things that have made us who we are today. So it's now what we do with the new intelligence and the decisions that we make from here on out are the most important. So, and we know negative things still occur. We're not saying that all of a sudden everybody's going to catch up and wake up at the same time.
[00:43:41] That won't happen. But what we're going to learn to do is not give in and play that role of negativity in with it. Because once these negative media and stuff has nobody watching it anymore, it's Things do exist. It's just like our kids, , if you make them stop doing bad behavior, then it stops.
[00:44:03] But if you keep giving in and playing along with it, that's how it generates and feeds off of it. So it's a new way of thinking and a new way of living. And the best thing to do is start within. Get to know yourself, you
[00:44:18] Tianna: know? Mm-Hmm. through practices like meditation and stillness and unplugging, like you're saying from, from, um, the tv.
[00:44:26] Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh and getting, , our bodies cleaner and healthier so that we can raise to a higher
[00:44:33] Nancy: vibration and understand we have been programmed since birth. We're automatically gonna have negative thoughts. That's part of being human. So what we have to do is replace those negative thoughts with two positive thoughts and refuse to refuse to see the negative aspects.
[00:44:51] They're there. We know they're there, but we decide to see the beautiful things on our planet, the beautiful things in the day, the beautiful things in each other, , and it will become more habit as we practice it, and it will raise our frequencies. Raising your frequency feels really good. It's like an adrenaline rush.
[00:45:11] It feels really good. So it's your body rewards you for this because it's part of our evolution. It's part of who we are is learning to be better humans. And this is what's happening in our world today. And we're all a part of it. We are all part of disclosure. In my opinion, we are it we are the disclosure.
[00:45:32] Tianna: Yeah. So do you feel like , not everybody's necessarily going to wake up and come on board, but that. There could be what they call the critical mass, like if you just get, whatever that number is, enough people that shift from this frequency to this frequency, then it affects the whole field.
[00:45:47] It really does.
[00:45:48] Nancy: And it will affect them, whether they know it or not. It will. I mean, it's just. We're all connected
[00:45:55] Tianna: by energy.
[00:45:56] Nancy: Yes.
[00:45:57] Tianna: Yeah, I mean, I've seen that in my life as I keep doing practices that shift my vibration. It has like a ripple effect. It really does around. And so in that way, we can all feel empowered because I think a lot of people get very disheartened by the things that are going on in the world and they feel disempowered that , The control is outside of them in these people of power, when really, like you're saying, , we all can do our own inner work and raise our vibration.
[00:46:24] And that affects the field that affects all those that we're connected to. And that also inspires.
[00:46:32] Nancy: And then our family's brand is spreads like the common cold. It really does. It's amazing., I can see it and they've showed me visions, , of all these things. And I know people think, how does she think that can happen around the world?
[00:46:45] But it can, it really can, , but it takes each one of us working with our inner self and then outward. And what I do, I ask my subconscious to open up into my human consciousness. And to help me, , I tell it, please release all of the things that you block from me. , I'm fully ready to face my fears.
[00:47:08] I'm fully ready to face the knowledge, , and help me because our world is changing and I want to know truth. I want to know answers and everything that I've been told by the interdimensionals is. It's all up here within our subconscious. We know the answers to everything we want to know. We all know it was blocked when we got here on Earth, but we know we just got to hook up with our inner selves.
[00:47:33] Tianna: Yeah, we unlock it, , and I'm not a video game person, but I kind of think of that, like, I think of this video game analogy of you go through the different levels and then you unlock the next, gifts and abilities as you continue to progress. And so
[00:47:46] Nancy: probably is a, that's a good way of.
[00:47:49] Younger generation, especially a way of them understanding how this all works. That's good. I'll have to remember that.
[00:47:57] Tianna: Yeah, because, , I've heard of that with our DNA. Like you said, the junk DNA, it's not junk. It's just, , that we have to activate it. And as we, , do these different practices to raise our frequency, then those parts of our DNA come on board, and that's why so many of us now, or at least in the circles that I run, because I'm a very woo woo person, so a lot of people are experiencing, telepathy with their friends and family and these things are happening more and more.
[00:48:24] Nancy: Intuition, all these things are starting to wake up,
[00:48:28] Tianna: and you know,
[00:48:29] Nancy: we've only been limited to the five senses.
[00:48:32] These things are changing our awareness. We're going to see more. We're going to experience more and we're going to go beyond these five senses for sure. But like I said, not overnight, it cannot happen overnight. It would be too much for our brains to handle. It has to be done in a divine, easy, slow process so that we can all.
[00:48:54] be, a part of it because this is a worldwide phenomenon is, , this is something for the whole world.
[00:49:00] Tianna: Yeah, because I also had a Kundalini awakening some years ago. And, , the thing is that, , it's a big energy, it's an intense energy. And so just kind of like what you're saying, like it needs to happen.
[00:49:10] Gradually with ease because when you shift to a higher frequency, then lower frequency stuff has to release and that can be overwhelming. If we don't kind of make the gradual shift up, then sometimes it's too much. And so we can all it was
[00:49:27] Nancy: a freaky thing the way it happened with me, but I had to have this happen.
[00:49:33] To do what I'm doing today, because this is part of my soul mission. I have to wake up a little faster and understand stuff. So I think that the kundalini will be easier. Like you said, for other people. Yeah.
[00:49:49] Tianna: So, , anything else that you can share, , that might help people, , so we're not all going to be contactees and we don't all need to be contactees, right?
[00:49:59] You come in and you're sharing your message, but anything else that might help people through because we are definitely going through some very intense, chaotic, polarized times, and how we can Navigate that. And like you said, focus more on the positive. We are here in duality. And so there's both. But , where are we focusing?
[00:50:20] , what can we do, , to help us to navigate these times in the best way?
[00:50:24] Nancy: You know, I've never been one to really pay a lot of attention to like the solar flares and things like that. But I have noticed. Changes in my body and I'll go look and it's like kind of freaks me out, but it's so real what they say Is occurring , like patterns of people not sleeping patterns of feeling a little bit of anger and not knowing why you're feeling these things.
[00:50:50] But if you start doing a little research on Ascension. On side effects and things, it will help you understand some of these emotions that we are feeling because the way I understand it is that before we reach a higher level, we have to face like, certain things, aspects of ourself. We have to look at different things.
[00:51:11] And it's not that we are totally influencing us in any way, but it's that we have to, I guess, close doors on certain things. I don't know how to explain it really. You might have a better way of doing it, but I know that there's some days that we're really tired. There's some days that we're really drained.
[00:51:30] And I think a lot of it is part of this ascension. Our earth is going through an ascension. She is going through her own ascension. Evolutionary change, and as she's going through this cycle, we're going to, notice, look at all the weird things that's happened this year. Oh, yeah, the environment and, so there's a lot of things going on and it does influence.
[00:51:50] A lot of what we feel so. I don't know everything, but I have noticed that about, , part of this ascension process.
[00:51:58] Tianna: Yeah. I don't always pay attention to the solar flares either, I'm a very energetically sensitive person anyway, and there'll be times when, Out of the blue for no, obvious reason.
[00:52:08] I'll feel really drained or whether it's like, not sleeping well, or whether it's feeling really exhausted all the time. And then people will tell me, Oh, it's because of this layer and this, and it's like, Oh, okay. So it's just good to know that, , some of these things are a natural way that our system is trying to integrate and process this energy and to listen to our bodies and honor it.
[00:52:30] While we go through this together. Yeah. Well, they say to
[00:52:34] Nancy: drink
[00:52:35] Tianna: a lot of
[00:52:35] Nancy: water too.
[00:52:36] Tianna: Yeah. And try, I mean, I think everyone, we hear this, we know this, but we don't always make time, right. Drink a lot of water, try to spend more time in nature, which helps us to stabilize, and integrate energies and to give ourselves some downtime and slow down at times.
[00:52:55] It's been such a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you. I've enjoyed it too. Where can our listeners, find you?
[00:53:01] Nancy: Yes, , my website is time for disclosure.com and then my Facebook group is time for disclosure slash We have never Been alone slash we are the disclosure and I truly believe humanity is the disclosure.
[00:53:14] We're unique, beautiful beings. And we are just now understanding who we are. We are coming out. We're like the little caterpillar coming out of our little cocoon, turning into this beautiful butterfly. So, I think we are the disclosure. So, yes, anywhere on Facebook, I belong to a lot of groups, and I think they kind of all work together.
[00:53:34] We all know we're going through Ascension. We all want disclosure. We all want , humanity to work together. So, anywhere on there., you can find me. So thank you for having me. I've enjoyed it a lot.
[00:53:46] Tianna: I'm so happy that you've created a community. And I pay attention to astrology and this is the Aquarian age and so much of it is, , that we are not alone and we need to, work together with one another.
[00:53:56] And so I think, especially like star seeds and those who might be here on a spiritual mission. a lot of times can feel really isolated and alone and become disheartened. And so when we band together and encourage one another, we can create, , yeah, it's a great container for uplifted energy instead of, , like the negative messages.
[00:54:20] Oh yeah. And
[00:54:21] Nancy: all of us have, earlier in our lives had to go through that phase of being rejected or looked at as being negative, and. It's good to have each other and to support each other and share experience. That's a way of. understanding our experiences by working together, connecting and sharing information It's beautiful. So yeah, I would love to see anybody come in and be a part. Yeah. I try to keep it a safe place too, because there are people that want to pick and poke, but I throw them out.
[00:54:54] Tianna: You're a gatekeeper. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much. It was a pleasure. Take care. All right, thank you dear. I appreciate it.